Week 64 Contest Mr. Aitchison Tribute, Poll |
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 Jan 21 2009, 10:06 AM
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If i was choosing a piece of art to hang on the wall then i agree that legions entry was the best, however i felt that because this is tattoo forum i would choose who i felt captured guys tattooing style,anyone who has read reinventing the tattoo will know that one of guys favorite styles is the lightform in a organic enviroment, so moon got my vote because he captured this the best,i thought his light rays were spot on. As for changing the poll i think that knowing who votes for who would cause more arguments.
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Jan 21 2009, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE (lucid @ Jan 21 2009, 09:25 AM)  as for emailing entries to someone without a name i think it's a pretty dumb idea (no offence) - i for one, could look at most pieces of work and know who has done what because of the artists style i can't believe anyone on this forum casts a votes on WHO has done the artwork, even if they do does it really matter??... maybe some peoples insecurities are coming to the surface?? I think that it is rather naive to say that you can determine who did which piece simply because you think that you know everyone's style. I can assure you that you could not tell which artist did every piece in this latest competition. And I do believe that there are some people on here that subconsciously vote for their "favorite" artist. Not to down grade any of the past winners at all because they all deserved it. But what i am saying is that when someone has a certain image of their favorite artist they in their head, no matter what the artist puts up, they will usually only look at the positive aspects of the piece and is judges way more positively. Believe it or not, it happens. -------------------- "You put a tattoo on yourself with the knowledge that this body is yours to have and enjoy while you're here. You have fun with it, and nobody else can control (supposedly) what you do with it. That's why tattooing is such a big thing in prison: it's an expression of freedom—one of the only expressions of freedom there. They can lock you down, control everything, but 'I've got my mind, and I can tattoo my body—alter it my way as an act of personal will.' " DON ED HARDY
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Jan 21 2009, 11:47 AM
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i would agree with rethink and i thinks its actually quite retarded of you lucid to belive that people are not somewhat biast to thier fav artist if it was a comp. and say ur fav artist was josh carlton ( just say ) and lets say he did a piece and some random guy did 1 they were both great and bot pretty much equaled out u would vote for your fav artist you wouldnt say oooohhh i think its a tie so im not going to vote right? exactly most people vote for thier fav member not piece sub consciously without even knowing they see thier friend as a superior and want him to win
rethink i think emailing the pics in and having someone post them with numbers and vote then announcing at the end the name of the winner would be cool ... do what all of you want i am not picky just simply suggested that many get votes on terms not related to art -------------------- www.inkedbythenerd.com swallowsndaggers tattoo forum Swallows and Daggers Support The Traditional Movement Tattoo Artist, Painter, Asshole and Machine Collector |
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Jan 21 2009, 12:48 PM
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Well its prolly a dead issue by now but, I think I see Nerds point in that if you vote for someone it would be nice to have a reason for that vote. Then again you may have people that want to remain anonymous thats cool too the best thing I found in this is inspiration to try something new... I only got one vote but, I could care less cause I now have 2 other ideas to work on in this style so that is the best thing about what this is doing for us all damn votes and the winner I'm glad to do something in a new style and let everyone see it. I'm also glad to hear what people think about my work cause I hate every drawing I do.
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Jan 21 2009, 09:35 PM
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I would be more than happy to take the e-mailed submissions if everyone wants to do it that way.
-------------------- "You put a tattoo on yourself with the knowledge that this body is yours to have and enjoy while you're here. You have fun with it, and nobody else can control (supposedly) what you do with it. That's why tattooing is such a big thing in prison: it's an expression of freedom—one of the only expressions of freedom there. They can lock you down, control everything, but 'I've got my mind, and I can tattoo my body—alter it my way as an act of personal will.' " DON ED HARDY
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Jan 21 2009, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE (ReThinK @ Jan 21 2009, 09:35 PM) I would be more than happy to take the e-mailed submissions if everyone wants to do it that way. I think a MOD should step in and decide. I don't give a shit who wins. I don't care who is voted for. But I've stated that, and the reasons why many times before. If anonymity is the consensus, so be it, but it seems to me that the reasons leaning toward the anonymous entries are jaded and calloused with resentment between a select few. Who they are? I haven't been here long enough to know exactly, but for a forum that is dominated in numbers by male members, it sure does give chicks a run for their money when it comes to drama. It's a friendly forum contest. That's all. No prize, no money, just the right to pick the next contest and the pain in the ass responsibility of posting the fricken poll. My .02? I think the basic simple rules that have been in place for this "friendly" "helpful" community contest are fine. The way it's set up promotes sharing and openness. What you're proposing encourages secrecy and lack of trust. That's not what I want to be a part of. p.s. ReThink, I just responded to the last post which happens to be yours. This is not in response directly towards you, but.... I do disagree with your opinion... this time.  -------------------- |
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Jan 21 2009, 11:48 PM
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ive never voted for someones art based on who they are and i find it hard to believe anyone here would, how can you call your self an artist if your opinon is not based on the art, and to try and make people give a reason for why they voted would be hard to control and a waste of time, if you wanna give a reason give one, i dont think i ever have, ive picked the one that most appeals to me and made my vote, its a freindly contest to improve our skills and get us drawing, stop pulling bullshit into it.
edit: i voted for draize, it was a close pick between him and justin for me, but thats just me and what i like This post has been edited by PAINT: Jan 21 2009, 11:52 PM -------------------- The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them. |
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Jan 22 2009, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE (ReThinK @ Jan 21 2009, 06:06 PM) I think that it is rather naive to say that you can determine who did which piece simply because you think that you know everyone's style. I can assure you that you could not tell which artist did every piece in this latest competition. And I do believe that there are some people on here that subconsciously vote for their "favorite" artist. Not to down grade any of the past winners at all because they all deserved it. But what i am saying is that when someone has a certain image of their favorite artist they in their head, no matter what the artist puts up, they will usually only look at the positive aspects of the piece and is judges way more positively. Believe it or not, it happens. did you actually read what i wrote? " i for one, could look at most pieces of work and know who has done what because of the artists style" i never stated that i know everyones style or which artist did every piece - the key word being 'most', i still stand by that statement, MOST people on here - have their own style which is reflected in any art they produce, most of the time I (and i'm sure i'm not alone in this statement) have a fair idea who does what - if anything that is a compliment to MOST people on here... "I can assure you that you could not tell which artist did every piece in this latest competition." - that statement is bolder than me saying i can see peoples style come through in their work "what i am saying is that when someone has a certain image of their favorite artist they in their head, no matter what the artist puts up, they will usually only look at the positive aspects of the piece and is judges way more positively. Believe it or not, it happens." who are you talking about here?? i for one can only speak from personal experience!.... QUOTE (The Nerd @ Jan 21 2009, 07:47 PM) i would agree with rethink and i thinks its actually quite retarded of you lucid to belive that people are not somewhat biast to thier fav artist if it was a comp. and say ur fav artist was josh carlton ( just say ) and lets say he did a piece and some random guy did 1 they were both great and bot pretty much equaled out u would vote for your fav artist you wouldnt say oooohhh i think its a tie so im not going to vote right? exactly most people vote for thier fav member not piece sub consciously without even knowing they see thier friend as a superior and want him to win 1, don't call me retarded. i can barely understand your poorly constructed retort. At the end of the day there are winners and losers - this is a competition. If two pieces of art were so technically equal it came down to who you favorite artist was - so be it - like i said before this is a COMPETITION there are winners and LOSERS! QUOTE (PAINT @ Jan 22 2009, 07:48 AM) ive never voted for someones art based on who they are and i find it hard to believe anyone here would, how can you call your self an artist if your opinon is not based on the art, and to try and make people give a reason for why they voted would be hard to control and a waste of time, if you wanna give a reason give one, i dont think i ever have, ive picked the one that most appeals to me and made my vote, its a freindly contest to improve our skills and get us drawing, stop pulling bullshit into it. exactly paint. my feelings exactly!! ---------------------------------------- for a forum of predominantely male members this is fast turning into a bitch fest. This post has been edited by lucid: Jan 22 2009, 03:07 AM |
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Jan 22 2009, 08:45 AM
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Justin D: i agree that the point of these comp are not baised on who wins and loses or whatever the case may be but trying a new style, then again if i try a new style and i post it then some crap wins over me im going to second guess myself and be like wtf how did that fucker win and i can clearly see how mine is better or whatever the case may be .... i just belive if your going to put your time into a project and spend hours doing it and u have a guy who spent 5 min and come up with crap but because hes more "KNOWN" he wins it sorta defeats the purpose of a CONTEST ..... i see your point and do not argue with it but you should see mine aswell
now Lucid: on thepart of mine i did not call u a retard i said its retarded of u to think that close minded i understand that thier are winners a LOSERS like u say but its pretty fucked up when you have a pin up competition and a stick figure wins over a amazingly done piece because someones more popular or what not ... i dont enter these contest so to me its not an issue and the issue is not knowing who is who that wasnt my idea but i think its a good 1 and would think its a good idea my issue was with people getting random votes with no explanation why .... if i take time to enter a contest i would want to know why say justin Ds is better than mine or mine is better than yours and what not -------------------- www.inkedbythenerd.com swallowsndaggers tattoo forum Swallows and Daggers Support The Traditional Movement Tattoo Artist, Painter, Asshole and Machine Collector |
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Jan 22 2009, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE (lucid @ Jan 22 2009, 02:53 AM) did you actually read what i wrote? " i for one, could look at most pieces of work and know who has done what because of the artists style" i never stated that i know everyones style or which artist did every piece - the key word being 'most', i still stand by that statement, MOST people on here - have their own style which is reflected in any art they produce, most of the time I (and i'm sure i'm not alone in this statement) have a fair idea who does what - if anything that is a compliment to MOST people on here... "I can assure you that you could not tell which artist did every piece in this latest competition." - that statement is bolder than me saying i can see peoples style come through in their work "what i am saying is that when someone has a certain image of their favorite artist they in their head, no matter what the artist puts up, they will usually only look at the positive aspects of the piece and is judges way more positively. Believe it or not, it happens." who are you talking about here?? i for one can only speak from personal experience!.... for a forum of predominantely male members this is fast turning into a bitch fest. Did you actually read what I wrote? I really don’t think so. I said that you cannot tell which artist did EVERY piece. But go ahead and think what you want, this was not an attack on your ability to read art work, however a general statement to people voting on these pieces. I just find it close to imposable to determine who did what piece especially when people on here are constantly switching there style and trying different things. Fuck I think it’s great for those of you who don’t judge based on a members screen name, however this does not reflect to MOST members on here. I don’t care if they say they don’t or not, it happens subconsciously. Like I said before, believe it or not. I really don’t give a fuck. "We have no words for speaking of wisdom to the stupid. He who understands the wise is wise already." -------------------- "You put a tattoo on yourself with the knowledge that this body is yours to have and enjoy while you're here. You have fun with it, and nobody else can control (supposedly) what you do with it. That's why tattooing is such a big thing in prison: it's an expression of freedom—one of the only expressions of freedom there. They can lock you down, control everything, but 'I've got my mind, and I can tattoo my body—alter it my way as an act of personal will.' " DON ED HARDY
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Jan 22 2009, 09:34 AM
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rethink said it best .... you may not and a few others may not judge on the person but the art ... but very much so do i belive that almost every person on here sees thier "friends" as superior and that they have better skills and suconsciously votes for them .... weather you belive it or anyone belives it i can give 2 fucks but its something knoe for a fact because in the past i have even done it and didnt realize till now
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Jan 22 2009, 12:10 PM
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Lets drop all this horse shit and go back to having fun with this I've almost got my next entry ready.
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May 11 2009, 01:13 PM
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i liked two the most,many were really good,but justin seemed to catch the color and lighting you would see in a guy piece,the foreground image caught the darks and lit background,so for the shading and light contrast and colors this one showed alot of grasp for the tribute to guy's work,but draize attacked it from a different perspective,technically the organics was great,excellent bio and feel for the weight of the image,but didn't catch the positive negative lighting as much as justins,not knockin either as they all were done with a different perspective and at each artists abilities showing them lets you derive ideas and concepts that will only add to future pieces everyone does,great work guys,i only pointed out these two not for the competition aspect but for the overall work each one gave,very inspiring work guys and as for the competition aspect,anonymous would be better for all, it would stop the arguments somewhat and not take away from the nature of the game,but not having entered myself which i probably wouldn't anyways,it's just an opinion
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May 11 2009, 06:47 PM
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i didn't add that trippballz was the most original work up there,as a tribute in that style it is his interpretation and stands alone amongst the others,would make a great tat,i liked aspects of the others as well,and seein that i don't know none of the entrants it's an unbiased view
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