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Please consider the following when giving feedback on a member's tattoo:

Line work: Does the artist seem to have grasped the technique of applying smooth, consistent lines? Do the lines flow with no shakes, skips or blow-outs?

Fill: Are all color and black areas a consistent color?

Shading: Does the tattoo show smooth gradients and transition effectively from light to dark?

Color Harmony:
Does the tattoo have colors that compliment each other?

Placement/Size:
Does the tattoo seem to be the right size for the area chosen? Is it centered and lined up with any other work? Does it go with the flow of the body?

Design: How well does the overall design work? Does it have sound composition? Does it feel well thought out?

Feedback: What areas could be improved?

 
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post Oct 15 2009, 07:45 AM
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I've been tattooing full time at this shop for 4 months... still have a lot to learn, but I get to do interesting stuff!
this is my design, let me know what you think...
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post Oct 15 2009, 08:11 AM
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cool ,i may have put a little white in spots to make it pop. they must be a beautician or something huh.
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post Oct 15 2009, 09:41 AM
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ummm its ok ...

the perspective is totally off on those spikes and it dopse not look victorian with those red spikes it looks very metalish not so smooth victorian feel ... the burst or whatever its trying to be looks like a lopsided sun ... why dose it not fade out a bit? and gradients on the siccors are pretty poor aswell not to mention a few wibbles and wobbles in the linework .. all in all the work can be fixed but the design being that it looks spikey and rough not so victorian


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post Oct 15 2009, 09:45 AM
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ok, nerd, they're punk rock victorian scissors... laugh.gif

she's a haidresser and a make up artist

thanx for the crits!

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post Oct 17 2009, 06:36 AM
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i like the design for the most part, with the exception being the spikey top parts. i feel the linework could be a bit thicker, shade work in the "blades" is a bit rough. and i'd like to see the red burst whipped out instead of being a solid ball. not a bad piece, just could use a little work.
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post Oct 17 2009, 06:51 AM
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looks cool to me i might have put a little white in in spots to make it pop. id say more but who knows maybe thats exactly how she wanted it!!!!??? was this done freehand from your head,? i doubt it,so u must have shown her the image ahead of time right.if it was unacceptable she would have said so. give the client what they want.....period!!!! not what u think they should have! post the original image. we'll see how close you are to that then we may have the right to comment on what 'should be'.
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post Oct 17 2009, 09:28 AM
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^ really .. ok then when a client comes in with a crap photo of some horrible tattoo and say i want that ur gunna tattoo just that ... hahaha ur a joke ... the client has very littole say in this industry its the clients who drive us yet we tell them what to do .. if u say it has to be bigger or it wont work they will listen if u say u need to put a flying penis in the BG for it to pop they will ...

anyways reguardless if the client liked it or not its a mediocre tattoo and ur names attached to it ... when other artist see that they will say thats crap who did it ur client will tell them and ur name will forever be crap with that artist


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post Oct 17 2009, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE (The Nerd @ Oct 17 2009, 10:28 AM) *
^ really .. ok then when a client comes in with a crap photo of some horrible tattoo and say i want that ur gunna tattoo just that ... hahaha ur a joke ... the client has very littole say in this industry its the clients who drive us yet we tell them what to do .. if u say it has to be bigger or it wont work they will listen if u say u need to put a flying penis in the BG for it to pop they will ...

anyways reguardless if the client liked it or not its a mediocre tattoo and ur names attached to it ... when other artist see that they will say thats crap who did it ur client will tell them and ur name will forever be crap with that artist


You mean I didn't really need to get that flying penis in the background? dammit.


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post Oct 17 2009, 04:00 PM
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I like the design the only part I'm not really feeling is the red blob. I dont think it should be shaded out like others have said I think more of a Sailor Jerry style sun burst.

I dont thinks it a bad tattoo nor a great one,but I definately think you have a lot of potential for someone with 4 months experience. I would like to see more of your work.




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post Oct 20 2009, 05:05 PM
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thanx again everybody for the critique!
about the linework, I know a lot of you guys use larger grouping, I like to line with a 3 or a 5... (That's also what everybody does where I work). this was done with a 3. the lines around the blades are a little inconsistant, but not as much as the picture shows I think...
looking back at it, I wish I would have put shading around the pink circle, but overall, I'm very happy with this tattoo. I'll try to post a picture of the design tomorrow.

ps: so, nerd, this tattoo went from ok, to mediocre to crap? dry.gif
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post Oct 20 2009, 06:15 PM
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Hey,Nerd pulls no punches when asked for a crit!But he will put himself up to take a few hits himself,so I guess it evens out in the end!Dont take it personal.....I know thats easy to say and harder to do,.......

....however,way-2-go on getting a stretch in that area without causing bruising!And lining with 3s really brings out the wobbles in things,especially in soft areas

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post Oct 21 2009, 08:33 AM
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thanx shocker, I've been hanging around here for a while, so I know not to take his stuff too personal!
anyways, greyarea asked for the original design, here it is:
(the customer was stoked about it)
sorry about the image quality, scanner home, sketchbook at work smile.gif
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post Oct 21 2009, 11:13 AM
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i never said its crap i was speaking in general its a mediocre tattoo meaning its ok ... its not pro and its not great but it sure ass hell aint horrible ... i just feel the design lacked a lot .. and the design to skin transfer didnt go well ... its not a horrible tattoo but it coulda been way better .. anywasy i dont take personal shots i crit how i feel ...

i like shocker but say he posted a crap tattoo i would tell him its crap no if ands or buts its not personal its a honest crit same thing i ask for with my work ... most of the time i take harder shots then i give out but thats because i give out so many hard shots and guess what it helps me ... anywasy u got the poijnt


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post Oct 21 2009, 02:55 PM
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no worries man!
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post Oct 21 2009, 03:22 PM
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That's a hard area to tattoo on someone without much muscle tone. Great job.


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post Oct 21 2009, 04:42 PM
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most all things being relative, i like this piece. at first glance, i liked it alot. after reading a few posts, i went back w/ a more critical eye and saw some areas for improvement. i think you can go back and clean up the lines with a 3 shader or a 5 shader. sculpt them smooth and it will clean up nice. and back to my original statement, for four months in shop and considering the placement, i think it is a very solid piece. if the client loves it, then you win. you gain the experience and hopefully a little $.
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post Oct 22 2009, 01:22 AM
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I like this tattoo a lot. I think personally it would pop much more if you faded out the pink circle, or put some light rays around it.
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post Oct 23 2009, 05:12 AM
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QUOTE (cielciel @ Oct 20 2009, 09:05 PM) *
thanx again everybody for the critique!
about the linework, I know a lot of you guys use larger grouping, I like to line with a 3 or a 5... (That's also what everybody does where I work). this was done with a 3. the lines around the blades are a little inconsistant, but not as much as the picture shows I think...
looking back at it, I wish I would have put shading around the pink circle, but overall, I'm very happy with this tattoo. I'll try to post a picture of the design tomorrow.

ps: so, nerd, this tattoo went from ok, to mediocre to crap? dry.gif


regardless what other people in the shop are doing, a traditional tattoo, like this one, really needs a nice bold outline. try a looser seven, an 8 or a tight 9. It will make the work stand out more and trust me, it will help your linework. larger needle groupings are alot more forgiving as far as wobbles go. it's a bit of a learning curve for some with these needles, but once you get the hang of them, i doubt you'll go back to 3's and 5's for trad work.
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