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 Nov 13 2008, 04:52 PM
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QUIT drinking! Not helping ya much!
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Nov 13 2008, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (voodoo2 @ Nov 13 2008, 04:52 PM)  QUIT drinking! Not helping ya much! Thanks, I myself took the same decision yesterday. All the spanish beers are already chemistry and conservants, this is provoking much stomach acids. I dont have the time, but some people are producing natural beer at home, sounds really cool! Cheerz! -------------------- First we draw what we think we see.
Then we draw what we know. Finally, we see what we know. Robert B. Hale Buy Me a Beer - PayPal Donation plugin: click here |
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Nov 13 2008, 09:19 PM
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When you have lived (or live) in far north, then you have to drink a lot of booze. Continue drinking mate!
 I have never seen how they do tattoos in Russia, but I can only use my imagination when i know how in old days tattoos were made in Finland. Today, fortunately, is internet and proper tools will be easy to buy. 
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Nov 14 2008, 10:15 AM
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Yeah, the first thrash metal wave was really connected with big quantities of drinks of any kind. The drinks were better than the conservants now. The music was better then as well.
Thanks and cheers! -------------------- First we draw what we think we see.
Then we draw what we know. Finally, we see what we know. Robert B. Hale Buy Me a Beer - PayPal Donation plugin: click here |
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 Dec 6 2008, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (stupidass @ Nov 11 2008, 08:09 PM) A bannana and a vibrator are sitting on a nightstand, the bannana looks over to the vibrator and says " Why the fuck you shaking? She's gonna eat me!!!" Oh shit.....this must be the joke thread? After reading the initial post, I felt right at home. For I too, am a caveman. I understood everything he wanted to know about "tuning." We come from a simpler time when thoughts were communicated through a series of clicks and grunts. Your world often confuses and frightens us. But where I come from it sounds to me like he wanted to know about needle speed? Which sounds like a drug reference if you ask me, but to answer that question you really have to delve deep in the mind of a caveman. One has to walk the path, so to speak. (they didn't have roads back then) So let me respond accordingly in caveman: Uggg.........needul speed id done by adjustimizing da contak skrew jober at da back o da magic metal thing. Ugg. Click, click, arrggghhh. Blub, blub. Chub, chub. Hee haw. Ugg. (sounds a lot like an Ewok from Star Wars I know) (distant relatives perhaps) Hey, what do you call a dominatrix with amnesia? --Beats me, I can't remember! What's blue and lives in a cardboard box? ---That's my bitch, and I'll paint him any color I want! -Big J. |
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Dec 6 2008, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (MORTAGON @ Nov 12 2008, 08:36 AM) This was my first post, and I was totally drunk. Some of this is not understandable by me too. Neele pas hehe. Yesterday I invented a contactless machine (removed the front spring and the contact assembly at all, and feeded directly by impulse power unit, done by me). So the evening I drank beerz with my known death metal drummer (cheerz!). So the machine works fine, less vibrations, no horrible noise, easier to tune (for reference about what tuning is, please read my first post hehe). What I wanted to say: - The machines are not autoclavable. Do you all believe this is enough for them, just to cover with a plastic bag? Later - are the plastic bags sterile? We use plastic bags to cover everything, machines, cables, bottles, but where the bags comes from? The disposable sterile things comes from warehouses. Things are sterile inside, we touch them outside hehe. Very sterile. The boxed black latex gloves are sterile? And the same is with the equipment in the hospitals, I used to be ill some years ago. This is what I had in mind. - About the big WHY... WTF x4 Sound to me like I wrote all this after the 15th beer. Cheerz! The big WHY? Here's your answer I think.....Needle speed is regulated by adjustments to the contact screw. Look for figure eights looking down on the nipple of the Armature bar for outlining, and two seperate armature bars in the blur of the motion looking sideways on the machine for shading. Or you can stick with the nickel and dime thing. Just remember that Ink gets drawn into the flesh as the needle extracts, and the momentary gap in the skin, fills with ink that was deposited on the surface from the suction of the needle extraction. If the needle extracts too slow, the skin quickly closes around the needle, and no ink is sucked into the flesh. (Stretching helps keep the skin from contracting too fast, and allows the needle to extract faster, with less skin-tugging force.) Also, if your power is too high, your coils retain a slight magnetism which holds your needle down longer. This reduces the UP time where the needle should be UP and out of the way, before it swings back down again for the next impact. Reduce voltage, or raise your contact adjustment or move the contact to a less flexible angle on the contact spring/leaf. Instead of making one-pass heavy, and causing skin trauma. Use a slower speed, and back-track over lines. The repetitive line working will give you a more constant line, last longer, have less blow-outs, and less voids. (Since you are running it slower, it also vibrates less. Try using around 4-6v for lines. Only use higher voltage if you need it. Do a solid outline once, than backtrack when you finish the outline. The slightly puffed skin will also take the needle better as it is harder, but filled with fluids. If you are using vaseline on your tattoo's, don't over do it. Vaseline is a petroleum based oil. It is water-proof. 90% of ink is water. If you are sucking vaseline into the needle hole, it will never hold ink. The Vaseline if injected can irritate the skin-cells, and the body will flush the little ink that enters with protective body fluids. (That leads to fast fading tattoos.) If you MUST use vaseline, where a tight and large needle-set requires a little more "slip" to extract properly from the skin, only use a light graze of vaseline, and don't press when you are wiping it off. Pressing will squeeze ink out and push vaseline in. That's why using a nalgene wash is always a good idea. Plus it don't hurt as much as all the wiping does. I hope this helps you, my caveman brother -Big Jeremy aka...Big J.
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 Dec 17 2008, 05:53 PM
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FOR SALE:
1 - Neele pas Its a must have for the artist that wants it |
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Mar 23 2009, 12:27 PM
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HAHA
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Mar 24 2009, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (mark101 @ Nov 12 2008, 06:20 PM) in prison they still use matchstick burn offs and urine lol actually its burnt vasoline and mouthwash.. lol- same difference really |
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Mar 24 2009, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (MORTAGON @ Nov 13 2008, 06:24 PM) Thanks, I myself took the same decision yesterday. All the spanish beers are already chemistry and conservants, this is provoking much stomach acids. I dont have the time, but some people are producing natural beer at home, sounds really cool! Cheerz! This makes more sense to me if I translate it into Korean !! 감사합니다, 나는 나 자신 동일한 결정을 어제 가지고 갔다. 모든 스페인 맥주는 이미 화학이고 conservants는, 이것 다량 위 산을 도발하고 있다. 나는 시간을 없다, 그러나 자연적인 맥주가 어떤 사람들에 의하여, 소리 진짜로 냉각한다 집에서 생성하고 있다!  -------------------- Sometimes the reality of a situation can be so surreal that it`s unreal !!
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Mar 24 2009, 09:40 PM
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NEELE PAS!!!
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Mar 24 2009, 11:22 PM
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how the fuck did this make it to 3 pages of comments?
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Jun 20 2009, 05:30 AM
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bump just because this is the funniest thread i have read in a long time. excellent way to break up the monotony of searching for crap- im learning-
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Jul 14 2009, 06:35 AM
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Oh dear.
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 Jul 17 2009, 09:52 PM
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OH GOD NO....
.... .... .... .... wait for it... .... .... x3 This post has been edited by Kit Wiz: Jul 17 2009, 09:53 PM |
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Jul 17 2009, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (djbigjeremy @ Dec 6 2008, 06:05 PM) Oh shit.....this must be the joke thread? After reading the initial post, I felt right at home. For I too, am a caveman. I understood everything he wanted to know about "tuning." We come from a simpler time when thoughts were communicated through a series of clicks and grunts. Your world often confuses and frightens us. But where I come from it sounds to me like he wanted to know about needle speed? Which sounds like a drug reference if you ask me, but to answer that question you really have to delve deep in the mind of a caveman. One has to walk the path, so to speak. (they didn't have roads back then) So let me respond accordingly in caveman: Uggg.........needul speed id done by adjustimizing da contak skrew jober at da back o da magic metal thing. Ugg. Click, click, arrggghhh. Blub, blub. Chub, chub. Hee haw. Ugg. (sounds a lot like an Ewok from Star Wars I know) (distant relatives perhaps) Hey, what do you call a dominatrix with amnesia? --Beats me, I can't remember! What's blue and lives in a cardboard box? ---That's my bitch, and I'll paint him any color I want! -Big J. LMFAO |
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Jul 17 2009, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (djbigjeremy @ Dec 6 2008, 06:17 PM) The big WHY? Here's your answer I think.....Needle speed is regulated by adjustments to the contact screw. Look for figure eights looking down on the nipple of the Armature bar for outlining, and two seperate armature bars in the blur of the motion looking sideways on the machine for shading. Or you can stick with the nickel and dime thing. Just remember that Ink gets drawn into the flesh as the needle extracts, and the momentary gap in the skin, fills with ink that was deposited on the surface from the suction of the needle extraction. If the needle extracts too slow, the skin quickly closes around the needle, and no ink is sucked into the flesh. (Stretching helps keep the skin from contracting too fast, and allows the needle to extract faster, with less skin-tugging force.) Also, if your power is too high, your coils retain a slight magnetism which holds your needle down longer. This reduces the UP time where the needle should be UP and out of the way, before it swings back down again for the next impact. Reduce voltage, or raise your contact adjustment or move the contact to a less flexible angle on the contact spring/leaf. Instead of making one-pass heavy, and causing skin trauma. Use a slower speed, and back-track over lines. The repetitive line working will give you a more constant line, last longer, have less blow-outs, and less voids. (Since you are running it slower, it also vibrates less. Try using around 4-6v for lines. Only use higher voltage if you need it. Do a solid outline once, than backtrack when you finish the outline. The slightly puffed skin will also take the needle better as it is harder, but filled with fluids. If you are using vaseline on your tattoo's, don't over do it. Vaseline is a petroleum based oil. It is water-proof. 90% of ink is water. If you are sucking vaseline into the needle hole, it will never hold ink. The Vaseline if injected can irritate the skin-cells, and the body will flush the little ink that enters with protective body fluids. (That leads to fast fading tattoos.) If you MUST use vaseline, where a tight and large needle-set requires a little more "slip" to extract properly from the skin, only use a light graze of vaseline, and don't press when you are wiping it off. Pressing will squeeze ink out and push vaseline in. That's why using a nalgene wash is always a good idea. Plus it don't hurt as much as all the wiping does. I hope this helps you, my caveman brother -Big Jeremy aka...Big J. Loving that info big J |
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Jul 17 2009, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (savi @ Mar 25 2009, 01:22 AM) how the fuck did this make it to 3 pages of comments? x2 |
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Aug 25 2009, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (djbigjeremy @ Dec 6 2008, 08:17 PM) The big WHY? Here's your answer I think.....Needle speed is regulated by adjustments to the contact screw. Look for figure eights looking down on the nipple of the Armature bar for outlining, and two seperate armature bars in the blur of the motion looking sideways on the machine for shading. Or you can stick with the nickel and dime thing. Just remember that Ink gets drawn into the flesh as the needle extracts, and the momentary gap in the skin, fills with ink that was deposited on the surface from the suction of the needle extraction. If the needle extracts too slow, the skin quickly closes around the needle, and no ink is sucked into the flesh. (Stretching helps keep the skin from contracting too fast, and allows the needle to extract faster, with less skin-tugging force.) Also, if your power is too high, your coils retain a slight magnetism which holds your needle down longer. This reduces the UP time where the needle should be UP and out of the way, before it swings back down again for the next impact. Reduce voltage, or raise your contact adjustment or move the contact to a less flexible angle on the contact spring/leaf. Instead of making one-pass heavy, and causing skin trauma. Use a slower speed, and back-track over lines. The repetitive line working will give you a more constant line, last longer, have less blow-outs, and less voids. (Since you are running it slower, it also vibrates less. Try using around 4-6v for lines. Only use higher voltage if you need it. Do a solid outline once, than backtrack when you finish the outline. The slightly puffed skin will also take the needle better as it is harder, but filled with fluids. If you are using vaseline on your tattoo's, don't over do it. Vaseline is a petroleum based oil. It is water-proof. 90% of ink is water. If you are sucking vaseline into the needle hole, it will never hold ink. The Vaseline if injected can irritate the skin-cells, and the body will flush the little ink that enters with protective body fluids. (That leads to fast fading tattoos.) If you MUST use vaseline, where a tight and large needle-set requires a little more "slip" to extract properly from the skin, only use a light graze of vaseline, and don't press when you are wiping it off. Pressing will squeeze ink out and push vaseline in. That's why using a nalgene wash is always a good idea. Plus it don't hurt as much as all the wiping does. I hope this helps you, my caveman brother -Big Jeremy aka...Big J. Glad there was something at the end of this chaotic fuckfest of vocabulary. Neele Pas! -------------------- --------------------------------------
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Aug 26 2009, 12:29 AM
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wait for it ...................................
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