This site is no substitute for a formal apprenticeship
This site is no substitute for a formal apprenticeshipThis site is not a substitute for a professional apprenticeship with a licensed tattoo studio. Nor is this site a definitive source for learning the art or trade of tattooing. An apprenticeship is the ONLY universally accepted way to learn proper safety practices and sound technique.
While we welcome members of all levels, we STRONGLY advocate staying away from skin until you've received formal training from someone who works in the field. Hell, even hair stylists must complete over a year of courses, pass a state health board exam, and apprentice under a professional studio before earning a chair.
The trade of tattooing has a rich history and traditions that have been passed down from generation to generation. If you respect the art, please show your respects by learning the right way.
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 Nov 12 2008, 09:06 AM
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I only have the one pair.They dont come sterile ,but neither do i so does it really matter?
It is really only the pink one that bounces,so therefore does the orange one need it as well? |
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Nov 12 2008, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE (MORTAGON @ Nov 12 2008, 09:36 AM)  I invented a contactless machine BET YA DIDNT LOL while im at it when are people gonna realise sterile is totally different from clean This post has been edited by mark101: Nov 12 2008, 09:56 AM |
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Nov 12 2008, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE (mark101 @ Nov 12 2008, 02:55 PM) BET YA DIDNT LOL while im at it when are people gonna realise sterile is totally different from clean id be willing to bet that no one here tattoos in a completely "sterile" environment 
-------------------- im pretty much done on this forum, you can reach me thru my website
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Nov 12 2008, 10:28 AM
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Im sure now all the people will begin to use Dettol for cleaning, not for applying stencils.
About the machine - Im good on internet and I 2 weeks looked for any info about AC-powered machine. So Im sure Im the inventor of this, or at least not so much people are thinking about this at all. Im not proud about this - I just celebrated the invention with a friend and much beer (oh my...) I will put some videos soon, must work more about the impulse form first (the ways to change the pusle form). Depending by the pulse, it can be used as liner or shader or coctail mixer/shaker.  Dear experienced friends, let me know the difference between clean and sterile, when speaking about the customer's skin and bacterias, germs, and some hepatite-infected warehouse workers. I dont want to say that ALL studios in the world are not carrying about the customer, just asking a general question about what I saw in the years in Russia, Spain, Bulgaria and Sweden (i.e. the same everywhere). The last week a romanian tattoist used his phone to store in it my number - while worked. Cheerz! -------------------- First we draw what we think we see.
Then we draw what we know. Finally, we see what we know. Robert B. Hale Buy Me a Beer - PayPal Donation plugin: click here |
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Nov 12 2008, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (MORTAGON @ Nov 12 2008, 10:55 AM) I invented a contactless machine QUOTE (mark101 @ Nov 12 2008, 10:55 AM) BET YA DIDNT LOL If you have your word, 500$ that my reconstructed machine works - no frontal spring and no contact group. I also will remove the capacitor, while the power unit have the impulse forming function. The next step is to construct a power with controlable frequency, voltage and front of the impulse, but it works now too. -------------------- First we draw what we think we see.
Then we draw what we know. Finally, we see what we know. Robert B. Hale Buy Me a Beer - PayPal Donation plugin: click here |
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Nov 12 2008, 10:59 AM
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dont need to bet
1 superior have a contactless machine that works on pulse or some shit like that called the vtec or somet similar 2 a guy in the uk i know quite well took his version of a contactless machine to dts supplies in the uk probably around 7 or 8 years ago trust me there is nothing new in this industry |
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Nov 12 2008, 11:01 AM
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unless im mistaking, superior beat you to it but i could be wrong
fukk, yoda beat me to it This post has been edited by MARKT4LYF: Nov 12 2008, 11:01 AM -------------------- im pretty much done on this forum, you can reach me thru my website
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Nov 12 2008, 11:03 AM
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to create a sterile field you need to stop
1 people from entering into the area 2 you would need to remove all the air out of said area and keep it out is that possible NO 3 you would need to eliminate any biohazards in the area totally impossible as soon as the needle goes into the skin 4 anything entering the area would need to be sterilized before it enters the area when its in the area and as soon as it leaves the area so how you gonna manage that? clean and sterile are different |
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Nov 12 2008, 11:03 AM
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you can donate it to my favorite charity which is the great ormond street hospital for children i'll let you use my name and address for the payment
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Nov 12 2008, 11:07 AM
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Nov 12 2008, 12:12 PM
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-------------------- The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them. |
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Nov 12 2008, 12:55 PM
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OK thanks for the links, looks like Im not the first. However I did it without any info, so I felt myself as inventor. Then came the beer
 Im not xxx sanitar inspector, just asked for your opinions. I remember the first wave of real tattooing 20 years ago in Eastern Europe, the clean and sterile were then without much difference - this terms were new. Some army people still are using burned soles of boots to produce black paint... Cheerz! -------------------- First we draw what we think we see.
Then we draw what we know. Finally, we see what we know. Robert B. Hale Buy Me a Beer - PayPal Donation plugin: click here |
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Nov 12 2008, 01:20 PM
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in prison they still use matchstick burn offs and urine lol
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Nov 12 2008, 04:52 PM
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Hey, I want to thank all you guys for the warm reception. I expected brutal aggression from all bad asses, after my fall-start. Im sory I havent now to show you my first machine, made from truck crystal-cleaning motor and bodkin. When I tried it the second time in the military school, I used thrash music background (cannot remember Slayer or Deathcult it was) to mask my screams. The first time I told the officer I was listening to russian rock, it hurts very much (the bodkin, not the russian rock, but the officer was not known with the modern soviet music). By the way, the lines were enough fine then, for the said conditions (about 1,5mm single line - nowadays some people does outlining with 9 liner, creo no much difference). BTW the urine was used for centuries for desinfection. Well we now have Dettol however
 .Cheerz! -------------------- First we draw what we think we see.
Then we draw what we know. Finally, we see what we know. Robert B. Hale Buy Me a Beer - PayPal Donation plugin: click here |
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Nov 13 2008, 01:47 AM
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ummm
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Nov 13 2008, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE (OzzieMate @ Nov 13 2008, 02:47 AM) ummm dude what country do you come from ?Im international for many years, but 20 years ago there was nothing in Eastern Europe about the tattoos - the communist regime prohibited the tattoos for 5 decades. Now everything can be bought online or at conventions, but then we used improvised machines and colors. Please do not ask how we did stencils hehe, the spirit master was unknown. Nowadays there is no difference worldwide in general. Well sometimes horrible things can be seen everywhere (as the romanian with the phone, he is working in Spain). Cheerz! -------------------- First we draw what we think we see.
Then we draw what we know. Finally, we see what we know. Robert B. Hale Buy Me a Beer - PayPal Donation plugin: click here |
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Nov 13 2008, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (MORTAGON @ Nov 13 2008, 05:07 PM) Im international for many years, but 20 years ago there was nothing in Eastern Europe about the tattoos - the communist regime prohibited the tattoos for 5 decades. Now everything can be bought online or at conventions, but then we used improvised machines and colors. Please do not ask how we did stencils hehe, the spirit master was unknown. Nowadays there is no difference worldwide in general. Well sometimes horrible things can be seen everywhere (as the romanian with the phone, he is working in Spain). Cheerz! jesus i hope that cleared up more for the rest of you than it did for me -------------------- im pretty much done on this forum, you can reach me thru my website
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Nov 13 2008, 01:44 PM
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If you wrote that first post, you oughta think about A.A. Or at lest take it easy. Welcome dude, no disrespect, but that was a WHAFFU? moment for me too.
This post has been edited by rocklife: Nov 13 2008, 01:48 PM -------------------- I'm only here because I'm not all there.
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Nov 13 2008, 01:52 PM
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russian maybe? to much vodka?
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Nov 13 2008, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE (PAINT @ Nov 13 2008, 01:52 PM) russian maybe? to much vodka? A bulgarian. Beer (cans of Stainburg, exactly 36 x 0.5l, counted together. I think I took more than him, but not sure). Drinking with a russian, the russians are good friends. Please do not do this at home! Heh, I expected some comments about the contactless machines, but such personal interest... Thanks Im proud! -------------------- First we draw what we think we see.
Then we draw what we know. Finally, we see what we know. Robert B. Hale Buy Me a Beer - PayPal Donation plugin: click here |
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