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 Oct 27 2009, 03:22 PM
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I was browsing another tattoo related forum and found a topic discussing these styles and how they have become more common and a sort of easy way into the tattoo industry, I was reading comments regarding many artists building up portfolios of work in this style, and a lot of artists saying they were becoming bored of seeing it in portfolios from people who wanted an apprenticeship.I am concerned as i dont know what category my work falls into, but some people have described it as traditional/neo-traditional before, so if every wannabe apprentice out there is doing this style at the moment, what makes me different
 I also dont understand comments regarding it as an easy route into the industry, although i now find the style i have, the easiest to draw in, before i developed my own style which is still developing, I found traditional,neo-trad a difficult style to draw. hope this makes sense, i dont wanna post where i saw the topic on the web, cos i dont name drop lol anyone got any views on this? |
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Oct 27 2009, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Rosco Dynamo @ Oct 27 2009, 03:22 PM)  I was browsing another tattoo related forum and found a topic discussing these styles and how they have become more common and a sort of easy way into the tattoo industry, I was reading comments regarding many artists building up portfolios of work in this style, and a lot of artists saying they were becoming bored of seeing it in portfolios from people who wanted an apprenticeship.I am concerned as i dont know what category my work falls into, but some people have described it as traditional/neo-traditional before, so if every wannabe apprentice out there is doing this style at the moment, what makes me different I also dont understand comments regarding it as an easy route into the industry, although i now find the style i have, the easiest to draw in, before i developed my own style which is still developing, I found traditional,neo-trad a difficult style to draw. hope this makes sense, i dont wanna post where i saw the topic on the web, cos i dont name drop lol anyone got any views on this? I think it's never bad to show love and respect for Western Traditional art. You've tipped your hat to it. You understand what makes it work, and developed your own style around it. But I also think it's imperative to be versatile and proficient in a bunch of styles. -------------------- |
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Oct 27 2009, 03:48 PM
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lol i thought i might get a quick response to this post.
Thanks J.D those r kind words, i try my best to produce a variety of artwork but my tattooist said he loved the stylised stuff n would wanna see a lot more of that to consider an apprentice , told me to keep away from portraiture and realism at the moment and concentrate on the stuff i have been posting on here lately i found it rather odd, but he is a traditional tattooist and obviously hes saying what he would like to see, only problem is he says he aint looking for an apprentice right now i appreciate his advice n love having a face to face critique with a tattoo artist , I've decided to try n build up a sketchbook of realistic stuff as well just as an extra incase lol, but i dont wanna take it in on my next visit incase he thinks im just ignoring his advice, cause i really do appreciate it.but ifeel threatened now cause of that bloody debate , GRRRrrrrrrrr lol
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Oct 27 2009, 04:23 PM
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Though your work does have a trad./neo trad. feel to it I think your imagery mixed with those concepts gives you your own unique style.
As JD mentioned though its all about being well rounded. I love your work but I would like to see you have a go at maybe some new school or even some realistic pieces. Regardless your getting there for sure bro and you deserve it. |
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Oct 27 2009, 05:28 PM
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your work is legit.
as far as trad/neo trad as being a trend, it's always been and will be. keep on keepin' on. |
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Oct 27 2009, 06:31 PM
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i think thiers two side to this coin ...
thiers the traditional tattoos and the realism and all other tottoers .... traditional tattoos are always going to look for unique well executed traditional work in a potentential apprenticed portfolio another artist may shun the fact u did that artwork and not really see it as anything spectacular ... thats why i think you need to consider who u want to apprentice under and his or her style and also your style but u need to also be able to produce quality work around the board .... i say do what u have been keep in trad ne trad stuff u have been doing and do some other random shit on the side u know ... that way if this dose not work u have ur majority of stuff ur style but can show another artis ur versitile in all fields ... this gose to everyone here looking -------------------- www.inkedbythenerd.com swallowsndaggers tattoo forum Swallows and Daggers Support The Traditional Movement Tattoo Artist, Painter, Asshole and Machine Collector |
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Oct 27 2009, 07:24 PM
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I think the reason that allot of artist are not really impressed with this style is because it is not really diverse and dosent really show allot of artistic talent. there is some neo/oldschool stuff that shows tremendous talent but the majority of what i see people drawing on here reminds me of ed hardy. an it is understandable for sure, right now the stuff i draw looks like ed hardy but its a good starting place for a solid drawing foundation, tattoo motifs and tattoo translation. I think the fact that you find your current drawing style to be the easiest is a sign that its time to move on and study something else. When i went around with my portfolio i tried to have something from every genre to show that i am a multifaceted artist, i had oldschool, newschool, japanese, comic book, portrait, painterly, pointillism, pencil etc.. just my two cents
-------------------- I haven't failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work.[http://www.facebook.com/p/Marc_Chislett/623005117
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Oct 27 2009, 11:38 PM
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I think trad/neo-trad styles when done really well are almost more impressive than a well-rendered realistic piece. To paint something in a particular style, making it look both authentic and adding something distinct and your own to it is a different sort of creative discipline to producing an amazing portrait (which is still ultimately "just" copying when stripped to its bare essentials). I certainly don't think it should be regarded as something just anyone can churn out without a second thought. For example, I consider myself to be reasonably proficient at drawing. There was a thread a while back when people were discussing the ability to quickly draw a decent horse - I could probably actually do this, but to produce a very small straightforward piece like the ones you post 10 of every week, I'd have to think/plan/reference/deliberate for ages and it would be a real challenge.
However, I also feel like there's a sort of unspoken peer pressure to be producing traditional pieces at the moment; the other day Eveline actually apologised for the image she was posting not being in that style. It's important to stay true to yourself too. Your style is very distinct. It's clear that the influences are coming from traditional and neo-traditional styles, but there is another quality which is becoming unmistakably your own. For a portfolio, I'd say of course show you can do a bit of everything, throw in a couple of good portraits etc, and then just stick to what feels truest to yourself, because that's where your best work will always come from. Hope there was something useful in amongst all that! 
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Oct 28 2009, 11:47 AM
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Good will always be good & shit will always be shit, no matter the style.
As for Trad/NeoTrad being easy... Any fucking idiot can draw a heart with a banner around it, very few people can draw one well & even fewer can do it with originality and yet keep true to the style... I can draw & I've found drawing Trad/NeoTrad one of the hardest things I've ever learned.. As for the D. Ed Hardy clothes, my slacker nieces wear it, Cherry Creek tattoos & D.E.H. clothes... It takes all sorts to make a world (full of assholes..).... -------------------- We are all laying in the gutter but some of us are looking for spare change...
Tragic Bio.. Joe Sleepy on MySpace Merchandise JoeSleepy on Zazzle.com |
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Oct 28 2009, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (Joe Sleepy @ Oct 28 2009, 12:47 PM) Good will always be good & shit will always be shit, no matter the style. As for Trad/NeoTrad being easy... Any fucking idiot can draw a heart with a banner around it, very few people can draw one well & even fewer can do it with originality and yet keep true to the style... I can draw & I've found drawing Trad/NeoTrad one of the hardest things I've ever learned.. As for the D. Ed Hardy clothes, my slacker nieces wear it, Cherry Creek tattoos & D.E.H. clothes... It takes all sorts to make a world (full of assholes..).... There's the Joe I love! -------------------- |
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Oct 28 2009, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (J.D. @ Oct 28 2009, 05:19 PM) There's the Joe I love! 
-------------------- We are all laying in the gutter but some of us are looking for spare change...
Tragic Bio.. Joe Sleepy on MySpace Merchandise JoeSleepy on Zazzle.com |
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Oct 28 2009, 02:53 PM
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Thanks peeps u have all put my mind at ease i'll continue with my current style but im gonna make sure i try to build up a side portion of other material, just to keep up with the competition and show i can handle other areas of art
i know if it wasnt for this forum and the people on it i wouldnt have a clue how to paint with watercolours or developed into the style i have,thats why im so happy to be on board here!thanks again |
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Oct 28 2009, 05:49 PM
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the forum loves u too rosco ..
-------------------- www.inkedbythenerd.com swallowsndaggers tattoo forum Swallows and Daggers Support The Traditional Movement Tattoo Artist, Painter, Asshole and Machine Collector |
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Oct 28 2009, 11:43 PM
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I think it's time for you lot to get a room! hahaha
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