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Tattoos Outside The Shirt, but none under it? |
  Sep 15 2009, 06:50 AM
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Reading through Swallows & Daggers magazine this afternoon, I noticed that several of the interviewed tattoo artists were quite scornful of people getting lots of tattoos on the neck and hands before they have much coverage elsewhere. What do you all think about this?
Are above-the-collar/below-the-cuff tattoos a privelage of practising tattooists who have earned a place in one of the few careers that would permit this ink placement? |
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Sep 15 2009, 07:04 AM
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i think to each their own. I can see how it would seem like an act of "bragging rights" to get all the visible areas covered first, but who knows. Kinda like that guy who gets his first tattoo on his upper arm and then the next thing you know, all of his tshirts are sleeveless. Im sure some are proud and others are just trying to be "cool". I personally dont care as long as they are getting tattooed! I do think its funny that there are bands out there that have no tattoos, and the minute they get signed, they get covered to "fit the mold". eh...but what ever.
-------------------- Artistic growth is, more than it is anything else, a refining of the sense of truthfulness. The stupid believe that to be truthful is easy; only the artist, the great artist, knows how difficult it is.
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Sep 15 2009, 07:07 AM
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for me personally i agree with most of the views in the magazine, it is to some extent a privilage in our industry to get tattoos on our necks and hands.
however i also think it is also a case of people who are not in the industry , mechanics, chefs all the proffesions that do not require "decent formal presentation" aka salesperson etc.........they do not understand this view, and just plainly want a tattoo on thier necks or hands because thats where they want them and they like the positioning. its all relative, some tattooists will not tattoo your hands or neck if you do not have most of your body tattooed, some downright refuse....some see dollars and just dont give a fuck |
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Sep 15 2009, 08:11 AM
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some tattoo necks and hands etc.. some dont..
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Sep 15 2009, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE (Teo @ Sep 15 2009, 10:07 AM)  for me personally i agree with most of the views in the magazine, it is to some extent a privilage in our industry to get tattoos on our necks and hands. however i also think it is also a case of people who are not in the industry , mechanics, chefs all the proffesions that do not require "decent formal presentation" aka salesperson etc.........they do not understand this view, and just plainly want a tattoo on thier necks or hands because thats where they want them and they like the positioning. its all relative, some tattooists will not tattoo your hands or neck if you do not have most of your body tattooed, some downright refuse....some see dollars and just dont give a fuck i agree on this! I refuse to tattoo hands and necks on younger people (18-24) unless they are heavily tattooed. But its more for the regret reason. I waited till i was about 28 to go past my wrist and collar. I could be judged wrongly for it but its what i feel i right. Just my opinion -------------------- Artistic growth is, more than it is anything else, a refining of the sense of truthfulness. The stupid believe that to be truthful is easy; only the artist, the great artist, knows how difficult it is.
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Sep 15 2009, 09:06 AM
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Presumably they aren't just pre-judging every responsible adult who happens to want tattoos in those locations...there isn't really that kind of elitism about who gets to have ink where is there? Is it mostly aimed at younger folk, especially those who won't have made fixed career decisions yet, or who are likely to be swayed by fashions without realising it etc?
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Sep 15 2009, 10:25 AM
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Hand and face tattoos are fairly common among da locals of Hawaii, even if they are not covered elsewhere. Plus we get to use the "its in my polynesian culture to have tattoos" excuse, haha!
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Sep 15 2009, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (JUSRUSH808 @ Sep 15 2009, 07:25 PM) Hand and face tattoos are fairly common among da locals of Hawaii, even if they are not covered elsewhere. Plus we get to use the "its in my polynesian culture to have tattoos" excuse, haha! i refuse to listen to you brah!!!!, i havent surfed in 9 years....im fukin itching for a barrel.,...........and because you live near some of the most beautifull beaches in the world ...  lucky summumabitch !  |
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Sep 15 2009, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (Teo @ Sep 15 2009, 08:40 AM) i refuse to listen to you brah!!!!, i havent surfed in 9 years....im fukin itching for a barrel.,...........and because you live near some of the most beautifull beaches in the world ... lucky summumabitch ! Haha, plus we just had our first early winter north swell this past weekend, sorry had to rub it in! |
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Sep 15 2009, 11:38 AM
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These were all done right here on Maui by an artist named Samson. And beleive me there is alot of face, neck and hand tattoos here.
   
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Sep 15 2009, 03:37 PM
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The way I see it, you move onto the hands and neck when there aint room elsewhere. I would'nt tattoo someone's hands unless the arms had considerable work done. I've seen kids with their knuckles done but nothing on the forearm and I just think it looks unbalanced.
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Sep 15 2009, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Mywar @ Sep 16 2009, 11:37 AM) The way I see it, you move onto the hands and neck when there aint room elsewhere. I would'nt tattoo someone's hands unless the arms had considerable work done. I've seen kids with their knuckles done but nothing on the forearm and I just think it looks unbalanced. My 2p. x2, i want my neck and hands done but i got so much more room on the rest of my body it just wouldnt look right, so gotta fill up the rest before id even consider the designs for thoes areas. -------------------- The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them. |
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Sep 15 2009, 06:05 PM
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Thats funny i read this right now cuz just hours ago i was looking at a picture of this chick sleeved and tattooed only on her lower legs no back or chest work, and the first impression i got was that this chick sees being tattooed as trendy and why would she get something that is covered it wouldnt be noticed and she would not fall into that trendy crowd, or at least in her own mind. i seriosly feel that some people do see getting tattooed as being trendy, so i think thats why some people might frown on people like that, kinda like the tramp stamp and low cut shirts or armbands and tank tops or rolled up sleeves.
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Sep 15 2009, 10:33 PM
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Yeh I get these points, but by the same sentiments you shouldn't just presume to put everyone into the same box, just like how un-tattooed people shouldn't lump all inky people together. There will always be some people who are idiots and some who aren't, and you need to base judgements of these things on a little more than their personal wishes for their appearance. (Of course I get that tattooists should be wary of people making misguided choices etc.)
Personally I'm saving my neck/throat area, mainly because it's not somewhere I want to pick the wrong design for. However, I'll be getting a fairly large area on the side of my scalp tattooed this year...but I kinda see it as part of my hair-do rather than part of my tattoos *shrug* |
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Sep 16 2009, 04:46 AM
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I can see in the past how you really should earn the right to ware more visible tattoos.. prove you knew exactly what you were getting your self in for.
now-a-days attitudes are a little different, plenty of people are getting simple swirly hand tattoos because it has become more of a fashion thing. I had someone ask me for something on her hand/wrist as her first. I tried to tell her the ankle or foot would be a better place and just as feminine, but she was insistent. I did consider doing it until she said she didn't want it to go all blue.. I was like "er.. what?" she said "you know when you see tattoos on old people and they're all blue and faded. I don't want one like that" I refused to do it after that. personally if I'm waring jeans and a t-shirt you can't see that I have any tattoos and I like it like that. 
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Sep 19 2009, 11:26 AM
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Haha this reminds me, i'm 19, I went into the shop and told the apprentice I wanted a skull on my neck. Now i've been thinking about a neck tattoo for years and my entire front body is covered in tattoo's (ankles to my chest, I just don't have sleeve's on my forearms) And this kid has a half sleeve tops and tries talking me out of it. So I lifted up my pant legs and my shirt and was completely covered and he just said...."Oh shit, nevermind, what do you want?"
But anyways, I do feel like you have to earn your neck and sleeves/hands. I know too many people that just get their forearms done and get their whole throat done with stupid shit they put no thought into. The only reason I got my neck done is because I know I can absolutely do nothing else besides tattoo and I don't care how hard I have to try to get an apprenticeship. It's not an option doing something else and the neck is something i've always wanted and gives me a foot in the ass to go and get an apprenticeship because now I can't even get a job at McDonalds. |
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Oct 1 2009, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE (soro_one @ Sep 19 2009, 12:26 PM) Haha this reminds me, i'm 19, I went into the shop and told the apprentice I wanted a skull on my neck. Now i've been thinking about a neck tattoo for years and my entire front body is covered in tattoo's (ankles to my chest, I just don't have sleeve's on my forearms) And this kid has a half sleeve tops and tries talking me out of it. So I lifted up my pant legs and my shirt and was completely covered and he just said...."Oh shit, nevermind, what do you want?" But anyways, I do feel like you have to earn your neck and sleeves/hands. I know too many people that just get their forearms done and get their whole throat done with stupid shit they put no thought into. The only reason I got my neck done is because I know I can absolutely do nothing else besides tattoo and I don't care how hard I have to try to get an apprenticeship. It's not an option doing something else and the neck is something i've always wanted and gives me a foot in the ass to go and get an apprenticeship because now I can't even get a job at McDonalds. dont kidd yourself mcdonalds will hire anyone. -------------------- |
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Nov 20 2009, 05:28 PM
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 DING fries are done......DING fries are done!!!
-------------------- Just my 2 cents
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Nov 20 2009, 05:41 PM
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personally i am sick and tired of people bein so damn judgmental. who gives a fuck where someone else decides to get tattooed? if an artist has an issue and doesn't want to do the tattoo in a certain area thats there right. but for fucks sake quit cryin about it in publication!! the tattoo community used to be where you COULD be yourself without persecution,now its full of fuckin crybaby prima donnas who act like their status as a shop artist makes them an authority on all issues both moral and practical. SUCK IT UP AND JUST GIVE QUALITY TATTOOS YOU FUCKS!! your apprenticeship was not a phd in philosophy or an election to leader of the moral majority! fuck!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nov 20 2009, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE (eric1972 @ Nov 21 2009, 01:41 AM) personally i am sick and tired of people bein so damn judgmental. who gives a fuck where someone else decides to get tattooed? if an artist has an issue and doesn't want to do the tattoo in a certain area thats there right. but for fucks sake quit cryin about it in publication!! the tattoo community used to be where you COULD be yourself without persecution,now its full of fuckin crybaby prima donnas who act like their status as a shop artist makes them an authority on all issues both moral and practical. SUCK IT UP AND JUST GIVE QUALITY TATTOOS YOU FUCKS!! your apprenticeship was not a phd in philosophy or an election to leader of the moral majority! fuck!!!!!!!!!!! X2 Brother! It's getting like a soap opera. -------------------- |
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