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Tatsoul Spearman Envy Needles, Tried some new needles
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post May 8 2009, 01:28 AM
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If it were a shit product I wouldn't be talking about it. They were nice enough to throw me some samples and talk with me about it so I thought I would share. I've tried talking to other companies about their new products and I was lucky to get a responce to my e-mail. I still haven't gotten any replies about Alla Prima yet.


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post May 8 2009, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE (Mario AKA mark @ May 8 2009, 02:28 AM) *
If it were a shit product I wouldn't be talking about it. They were nice enough to throw me some samples and talk with me about it so I thought I would share. I've tried talking to other companies about their new products and I was lucky to get a responce to my e-mail. I still haven't gotten any replies about Alla Prima yet.



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post May 9 2009, 12:03 AM
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remarks like these is why I don't return your calls.


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post May 9 2009, 02:11 AM
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Have you compared the 5rl and the extra tight 5rl's?
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post May 9 2009, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (Grinning Buddha @ May 9 2009, 10:11 AM) *
Have you compared the 5rl and the extra tight 5rl's?

No i haven't and to be honest their 5's are really tight to begin with. I'll post a close up of their liners to show tonight


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post May 12 2009, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE (Grinning Buddha @ May 9 2009, 02:11 AM) *
Have you compared the 5rl and the extra tight 5rl's?


I have. i just got my sample order in from Tatsoul. 60 boxes or so.
First thing I gotta say is WOW. What an extremely clean finish on these needles.
So we pulled a few out for a closer inspection. Nice long taper. Bugger all flex. Very stiff. This is good for a long taper needle.
The liners are the best liners I have ever seen, and I have had needles from everywhere being a supplier.
The extra tight liners are unbelievable. Tight as all get out but perfectly made. And every needle is identical. Same solder lengths and amounts, same needle positioning in the groupings.
The shaders look like they will put colour in real easy. Nice spread on the groupings which is a bonus. There are a lot of needles out there that would pass as loose liners and not shaders.
The mags are where they come into their own. What a fantastic job they have done with these little beauties. Especially the curved mags. Perfection with every needle.

Something we did notice with them. The needle loops are opposite to any needle we have ever stocked. Thats no big deal, just funny to see this.
Anyway, overall, these would have to be the best needles we have ever seen. we are sending sheets of needles out to different studios over the week. Once studios get these needles I am tipping sales are gonna go through the roof.

To answer grinning buddha.........the extra tight 5's would pass as a 3 easily.



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post May 12 2009, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (Oztatz @ May 12 2009, 05:47 PM) *
I have. i just got my sample order in from Tatsoul. 60 boxes or so.
First thing I gotta say is WOW. What an extremely clean finish on these needles.
So we pulled a few out for a closer inspection. Nice long taper. Bugger all flex. Very stiff. This is good for a long taper needle.
The liners are the best liners I have ever seen, and I have had needles from everywhere being a supplier.
The extra tight liners are unbelievable. Tight as all get out but perfectly made. And every needle is identical. Same solder lengths and amounts, same needle positioning in the groupings.
The shaders look like they will put colour in real easy. Nice spread on the groupings which is a bonus. There are a lot of needles out there that would pass as loose liners and not shaders.
The mags are where they come into their own. What a fantastic job they have done with these little beauties. Especially the curved mags. Perfection with every needle.

Something we did notice with them. The needle loops are opposite to any needle we have ever stocked. Thats no big deal, just funny to see this.
Anyway, overall, these would have to be the best needles we have ever seen. we are sending sheets of needles out to different studios over the week. Once studios get these needles I am tipping sales are gonna go through the roof.

To answer grinning buddha.........the extra tight 5's would pass as a 3 easily.


wouldnt a longer taper be better when it comes to a mag? jw cuz i ordered some mags from painful pleasures and they are #12 standard taper

just hope i can get smooth gradients and shades

painful pleasures also didnt have the bugpin mags that i ordered so they sent me some textured mags...a little disappointed but not really because i have been wanting to try out the textured mags
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post May 12 2009, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (Himhimself @ May 12 2009, 02:13 PM) *
wouldnt a longer taper be better when it comes to a mag? jw cuz i ordered some mags from painful pleasures and they are #12 standard taper

just hope i can get smooth gradients and shades

painful pleasures also didnt have the bugpin mags that i ordered so they sent me some textured mags...a little disappointed but not really because i have been wanting to try out the textured mags


Their mags are awesome. get some and try em. trust me when I say you wont get better than these.


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post May 12 2009, 04:55 PM
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i definitely believe u...they look amazing! the solder is soooo smooth and consistent

Edit: but yeah...wouldnt a longer taper be better on a mag?

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post May 12 2009, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE (Himhimself @ May 13 2009, 12:55 AM) *
i definitely believe u...they look amazing! the solder is soooo smooth and consistent

Edit: but yeah...wouldnt a longer taper be better on a mag?

It's good for both. You get thinner tighter lines that look cleaner. Especially if you are doing contruction lines for portraits or fine detail. With these the long taper and the strong needle make clean lines easier to get in. Which means less likely to blow out or over work while lining. Newer guys hate threes because their wobbles show up. With these the 3's are stronger making it easier to line. So your hand is the only thing moving and not so much the needles walking in the tube.


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post May 12 2009, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (Oztatz @ May 12 2009, 04:47 PM) *
To answer grinning buddha.........the extra tight 5's would pass as a 3 easily.


Cheers mate that's exactly the info I was looking for!
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post May 12 2009, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (Oztatz @ May 12 2009, 10:47 PM) *
I have. i just got my sample order in from Tatsoul. 60 boxes or so.
First thing I gotta say is WOW. What an extremely clean finish on these needles.
So we pulled a few out for a closer inspection. Nice long taper. Bugger all flex. Very stiff. This is good for a long taper needle.
The liners are the best liners I have ever seen, and I have had needles from everywhere being a supplier.
The extra tight liners are unbelievable. Tight as all get out but perfectly made. And every needle is identical. Same solder lengths and amounts, same needle positioning in the groupings.
The shaders look like they will put colour in real easy. Nice spread on the groupings which is a bonus. There are a lot of needles out there that would pass as loose liners and not shaders.
The mags are where they come into their own. What a fantastic job they have done with these little beauties. Especially the curved mags. Perfection with every needle.

Something we did notice with them. The needle loops are opposite to any needle we have ever stocked. Thats no big deal, just funny to see this.
Anyway, overall, these would have to be the best needles we have ever seen. we are sending sheets of needles out to different studios over the week. Once studios get these needles I am tipping sales are gonna go through the roof.

To answer grinning buddha.........the extra tight 5's would pass as a 3 easily.

Have you tattooed with them yet. I can see huge differences between old needles and the new ones.


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post May 12 2009, 09:36 PM
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post May 12 2009, 10:24 PM
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Have you used them yet?


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post May 13 2009, 12:45 AM
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I used 3 and 5rl. Sweet as. Lovely groupings. Using mags tonight. What do ya mean mario by difference between old and new needles?


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post May 13 2009, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE (Oztatz @ May 13 2009, 08:45 AM) *
I used 3 and 5rl. Sweet as. Lovely groupings. Using mags tonight. What do ya mean mario by difference between old and new needles?

I mean old by the ones I was using before oppossed to the Envy's. You would agree that their liners are super tight and they aren't even the tight liners they are advertizing. Makes precise lining easier.


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post May 13 2009, 02:32 AM
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The standard liners are tight groupings which is what a lot of my customers are looking for. The extra tights are tight as. Like the xt 5rl is easily a 3rl in lines but more solid as you would expect.


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post May 13 2009, 11:20 AM
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Just ordered some samples. Can't wait to try them out smile.gif


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post May 13 2009, 11:30 PM
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post here when you try them let people know what you think


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