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  Oct 26 2009, 03:34 AM
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ive noticed of late that needle depth is starting to mess me up - mainly in areas where the sin is thinner - i usually ride the tip- but lately ive started to ride the needle as i can see where im going better - get better detail and i dont get the big pool of ink that makes a huuge mess lol on the thicker parts - outer arms legs - back etc i usually go in about a mill - but i did a piece on my wrist using the same depth and it scared up a bit - obviously when it comes to hitting a design on another persons skin i dont want this happnin how do i determine how deep im gonna need to go in without going too deep and messing up?
-------------------- Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian
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Oct 26 2009, 05:03 AM
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If you're scarring up lines on more delicate skin then I'd say you maybe need to look at your machine setup, voltage and hand speed.
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Oct 26 2009, 05:07 AM
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im running my liner around 12 volt and my shader runs more like 8 volts - i gotta go to work in a minute but ill hook them both up and post the readings it gives tomorrow
cheers -------------------- Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian
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Oct 26 2009, 06:03 AM
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i nvr got any compliments on my lining UNTIL i started riding the tube .. i suggest all novices give this a try
-------------------- Brian- aKa Mack :]
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Oct 26 2009, 06:49 AM
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if using the proper amount of vas or whatever ointment u use the ink shoild puddle but dabbing it up should be no problem .... ide suggest riding the tube as it gives u a constant and even depth to all lines ...
i would love to ride the needle but at this point im not even close to ready ... -------------------- www.inkedbythenerd.com swallowsndaggers tattoo forum Swallows and Daggers Support The Traditional Movement Tattoo Artist, Painter, Asshole and Machine Collector |
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Oct 26 2009, 06:51 AM
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I don't think the rest of your numbers would help really. Everyone's machines run different. All I meant really was that if you know you're working on a more delicate area then maybe look at other aspects of your machine rather than just your depth... like turn the volts down a bit so it hits softer.
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Oct 26 2009, 10:48 AM
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the scarring was riding the tube - i started riding the needle last tattoo i did and it looks to be healing great - just the thin skinned areas i have had trouble with but that was riding tube - set up the same as i do for other tattoos with roughly 1 - 1.5mm hang
-------------------- Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian
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Oct 26 2009, 06:47 PM
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Yeah,
.... sounds more like Johnny saying. (Taking into consideration that all machines are different)......12v sounds a lil high for lining unless you're pushing a heavy group with 8 wraps or something. ..... I don't think there's any shame in "tubing". ...I ride it unless I'm on detail...makes for nice lines. This post has been edited by Stoneface: Oct 26 2009, 06:48 PM -------------------- If you ain't livin' on the edge, you're takin' up too much space.
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Oct 27 2009, 11:26 AM
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Wrist, tops of hands & feet, parts of the neck and head are very thin on certin people. I would not try these areas with out seeing how deep my needle is going because I must adjust on the fly. You can blow out & scare really easy in places like these, sometimes I scratch in a line in these places & sculpt to my liking.
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Oct 27 2009, 12:16 PM
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thanx yeah these are the places i had trouble with - determing how deep to go in
-------------------- Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian
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Nov 7 2009, 04:22 PM
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on thinner areas of skin like the hands and feet i dont go in a deep as i would as if i was laying a piece down on lets say an arm
-------------------- Screw The Rent! Get A Tattoo!
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Nov 7 2009, 05:45 PM
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When putting names on fingers, I try and feel the depth of the needle, I hang it out a good 2-4mm dip in the ink and do one letter at a time, I can't see any other way to do it...and I use a trusted $4 (£2.20) machine to carry it out, each to there own....Peace out,P.
PS..With a 5rl in a 3v tube.Sometimes even a wee 3rl........Ouch. This post has been edited by Nippyneedle: Nov 7 2009, 05:47 PM -------------------- C'MON THE HOOPS IN 2010,
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Nov 7 2009, 11:43 PM
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wow, ive never run the tube. i couldent even imagine the difficulty seeing the stencil or the ink blobs that must come up :S master the tip!
-------------------- I haven't failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work.[http://www.facebook.com/p/Marc_Chislett/623005117
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Nov 8 2009, 04:12 AM
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QUOTE (emcee2 @ Nov 8 2009, 07:43 AM)  wow, ive never run the tube. i couldent even imagine the difficulty seeing the stencil or the ink blobs that must come up :S master the tip! X2 -------------------- C'MON THE HOOPS IN 2010,
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Nov 8 2009, 04:33 AM
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i think its just mastering the depth your going - im getting used to it now and it makes it a lot easier - can see exactly where im going - dont got ink everywhere - little details and small pieces are easier cos i can see wher the needle is - i think riding the tube is more like welding - you got a big pool and trying your hrdest to stay in the middle of that
-------------------- Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian
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