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 Apr 9 2007, 02:49 PM
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So this is the list I gave the Ink-trails guys before they started having at it. I know some of you want to buy kits but they have alot of useless shit and they are missing alot of stuff that you need. This is the complete set up to almost be working in a shop, minus Autoclave. Keep in mind this is for the serious tattoo artist in training this is more then the 200 dollar begginer kit. When I started the owner of the shop told me to save up about 500 hundred dollars then we would go shopping.
It is as follows: Machines - You will want to order at least 2 machines, one for lines and another for shading. Initially you will want machines that are aluminum or steel, as any of the copper or iron machines are going to be too heavy for a beginner. Your hand strength will develop over time, and you can move up in weight once you get used to the equipment. A good machine will be from 125-175. I used Huck Spauldings for years before switching over to other machines. They are built ford tough Power supply - You will only need a small, basic power supply to get started. You can read from some of the posts here to get an idea of what brand. I've been using the International two gauge singel dial power supplie for 7 years now never had a problem it is made for tattooing. Foot Pedal and Cord - Round foot switch with phono plug. Don't even bother with the scissor action foot pedal they are crappy and break easily. The round footpedals are heavy and can be pressed from any angle. Standard spring clip cord Needles and Tubes - All are single-use, disposable Needles: 3 Round Liners 5 Round Liners 5 Magnum Shaders 7 Magnum Shaders Make sure to get pre-made, pre-sterilized on the bar needles 25 of each should keep you busy for a while Tubes: 4-8 Round Tubes (5/8") 4-5 Flat Tubes (1") 6-7 Flat Tubes (1") For the liners I prefer a 5-8 diameter tube it’s big enough for me not to get a cramp and small enough to get good control. Make sure you get 1 inch diameter for the shaders so it’s comfortable to hold for long periods of time. Rubber Nipples - Typically 100 pack Inks - Depending on your degree of commitment, you can choose a sampler set, or just individual colors. Moms, starbrite and millennium color all perform well. Kuri-sumi for black and graywash Ink Caps - Size #9 and #12 ink caps Transfer paper - 8.5 x 11? transfer paper Sharps container - NEVER throw needles in the trash. Supplies you can purchase locally: Powder free latex gloves from Costco A&D ointment or Vaseline 16oz jar Two spray bottles Rubber bands Plastic wrap Sandwich bags non zipper Scissors Scotch tape Rubbing alcohol Dial liquid soap large refill bottle Paper or Styrofoam cups Bleach (for area cleanup) Paper towels softer the better for wiping. Rolling chair or stool with adjustable height Massage table with vinyl non-porous work top that can be easily cleaned. Chair with vinly arm rest for client to be worked on. Optional stuff: Roll around storage cart with drawers for keeping supplies in one place. Rolling salon station with table top and drawers let you move your work station with you to the client. Dry lock pads for bandages and work area. plastic cord cover -------------------- |
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Aug 19 2007, 03:04 AM
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ok well, first off im Chris!
been a long time reader, first time poster  i've been interested in tattoo art for quite a long time as far back as i can remember, because of the sticker machine tattoo's lol, well finally got my mom agreeing in getting some stuff so i could learn to finally tattoo, and i have looked at allot of machines and power supplies and everything for awhile, and honestly i have NO clue in what to look for in a good machine to start with, like is there a certain brand that would be better than others at the same price? and ive read about allot of suppliers and which is the best site for the best prices? and im mostly planning on learning by trial and error, and all of your help do you think, that i would be able to understand full concepts? im tempted to blow my college fund on a apprenticeship, thad sure piss my mom off. im not going to do that! but ive read a lotta stuff from everyone who is active here and i really gotta say, this is the coolest forums i have seen about tattooin and ill be happy to answer any questions that any of you have about me, and with that, i just cant wait to start this, thank you all for your help!! |
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Aug 19 2007, 10:33 AM
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Chris you've asked a pretty good question. How do you tell which machines are good?
The best thing that I can tell you is forget about the idea that the more expensive the machine the better it is. After all if I bought a $20 machine & sold it to you for $150 it wouldn't get any better would it!?!? What I would suggest though is maybe speaking (PM them privately) to either forgiven or hallows victim & ask them about machines. These are 2 pro tattoo artists (well, their work would suggest that!) that use this forum who build custom machines. CUSTOM DOES NOT MEAN EXPENSIVE!!! Tell them your experience level & I'm sure they can help you out. Power supplies try the Cyclone 360 at world wide tattoo supplies. It's a variation of the Eikon device & shows you how fast your machine is running as well as voltage. This is really helpful in learning machine set ups. Good luck with this & remember it takes time & practice to get good. This post has been edited by Alvin: Aug 19 2007, 10:41 AM -------------------- "In this truck is a man whose latent genius, if unleashed, would rock the nation, whose dynamic energy would overpower those around him. Better let him sleep?"
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Aug 19 2007, 01:57 PM
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a nice machine has nice coils, armature bar, and capacitor. The frame can be almost any style you like. Custom Machines are nice because the coils are hand wound, the capacitor has been tested and chosen for your machine, not to mention the frame is fully custom. The machines you buy for 20$-40$ usuall the ones with the money coils are ok. They broke on me and werent as consistant as the 60-85$ were very nice, black coils and a diffrent armature bar that sounded better. Customs i havent got to use them to tattoo but they sound so much better. The creator wrote my name on the bottom and he put his logo on the armature bars. These machie dont feel cheap at all, seem like you could do anything to them and they would be ok.
hope this helps -------------------- www.freewebs.com/churchtattoo
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Aug 19 2007, 04:35 PM
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"The best thing that I can tell you is forget about the idea that the more expensive the machine the better it is." thats exactly what i was thinking too, you guys answered answered my questions! thanks!! plus more is the I.T.S machines good? i wanna get good machines to start with so i dont have to go back! |
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Aug 19 2007, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(CHRIS @ Aug 20 2007, 12:35 AM)  "The best thing that I can tell you is forget about the idea that the more expensive the machine the better it is." thats exactly what i was thinking too, you guys answered answered my questions! thanks!! plus more is the I.T.S machines good? i wanna get good machines to start with so i dont have to go back! the its machines i had were not very good, i had to replace about a month after getting them. Try unimaxsupply.com They have nice machines. Jaws jaws2 strong man i didnt like my I>T>S after a whille they would click and clack everyonce and a while -------------------- www.freewebs.com/churchtattoo
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Aug 20 2007, 02:46 AM
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thanks!
i like those Jaws machines! |
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Aug 20 2007, 10:56 AM
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no problem.
ps. looking back on the ITS machines.... i hated them -------------------- www.freewebs.com/churchtattoo
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Aug 20 2007, 11:02 AM
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I got a technical tattoo supply machine and they have good parts without busting your pocket right now.
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Aug 20 2007, 11:58 AM
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Check out the flea market forum on here. there are some REALLY nice looking machines up for sale for similar prices to what ITS are selling.
At least you'll get custom machines set up properly, rather than conveyor belt jobs. -------------------- "In this truck is a man whose latent genius, if unleashed, would rock the nation, whose dynamic energy would overpower those around him. Better let him sleep?"
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Aug 20 2007, 12:02 PM
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Mark, in your opinion is this a typo?
http://shop.technicaltattoosupply.com/Item...amp;eq=&Tp= If not what exactly would make this machine worth this much? -------------------- "In this truck is a man whose latent genius, if unleashed, would rock the nation, whose dynamic energy would overpower those around him. Better let him sleep?"
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Aug 20 2007, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Alvin @ Aug 20 2007, 04:02 PM) Mark, in your opinion is this a typo? http://shop.technicaltattoosupply.com/Item...amp;eq=&Tp= If not what exactly would make this machine worth this much? im not the mark you were asking, but HOLY HELL!!!!!!!! thats gotta be incorrect -------------------- im pretty much done on this forum, you can reach me thru my website
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Aug 20 2007, 06:11 PM
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ok ill check out the TTS machines and the flea market, i hella like hallows victim's machines!!!
oh and that LUCKY 7 machime i found the EXACT same one here for $280 http://www.newyorktattoo.com/lucky_7_machine_1718_prd1.htm |
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Aug 21 2007, 03:34 PM
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When not using disposable tubes and grips, what would be the recomended set to start with? ...there's so many different sizes to choose from.
And where can I buy all the items on the supply list online at the lowest possible total price? |
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Aug 22 2007, 03:04 AM
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Hi all. My name is Patrick and I live in Brisbane Australia. I am 36 years old and have been tattooed at regular intervals since I was 16. I recently purchased all needed equipment to start tattooing for myself and looked around for a place to gain a bit of knowledge. I found a few forums where I was mostly told to "f&*k off and get an apprenticeship" and then I found you guys! GREAT forum indeed. The knowledge here is second to none and the friendly atmosphere makes this place SO enjoyable. I spent the first 4 days just reading every post on the board.
I just wanted to say that threads such as this one and the discussion and level of maturity on here is awesome. The long time members and professional artists need to be commended for letting those starting out pick their brains on everything from correct needle selection to advanced shading techniques. Love it guys (and gals). Keep up the fantastic work. I will post pics soonish of the tattoos I have given people to date, and I know that I will receive honest feedback regarding my level of skill. Cheers ..... -------------------- If at first you don't succeed ......... maybe skydiving is not for you.
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Aug 22 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(Alvin @ Aug 20 2007, 08:02 PM) Mark, in your opinion is this a typo? http://shop.technicaltattoosupply.com/Item...amp;eq=&Tp= If not what exactly would make this machine worth this much? Thats got to be wrong unless it's solid gold made from bald eagle and I can have sex with it I wouldn't pay 1000 for a machine. -------------------- |
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Jan 1 2008, 09:00 PM
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hey mark thanks for this thread, because of it i went ahead a shelled out the extra bucks for a round footswitch.
-------------------- "Piercings and tattoos arent a statement, its a lifestyle." quoted from me when i was asked whats my deal with steel and ink.
got myspace add me----click here Cabinet Shop i work at |
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Oct 7 2008, 05:16 AM
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Technical Tattoo Supply is awesome, but the selection can be a bit daunting, especially for needles.
The original post recommends Round Liners (no problem) and Magnum Shaders. Alot of supply sites just offer magnum shaders, so no problem. Technical offers Magnum, Magnum Special and Magnum Round. Each of these is available in Taper or Bullet tip. There is no indication on the site which is preferred for shading. I assumed that they are all for shading because you can't buy less than 5 needle grouping. The tip style is probably a personal preference, but I am still unclear on the varieties of magnum. Another site I was browsing, but didn't order from, offered Weaved Magnum, Curved Magnum and Stacked Magnum. I'm willing to bet that all of this is explained in the posts, but I haven't read them all yet. Just posting to share with other newbies who might be feeling confused. -------------------- "Better the pain than to remain the same."
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Jan 18 2009, 11:42 PM
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Hi, I am new to this site and had a question for this string.
I see it hasnt been wrote on for a long time but I am very new to this and am trying to learn all I can. This was at the top of this Supply List. Tubes: 4-8 Round Tubes (5/8") 4-5 Flat Tubes (1") 6-7 Flat Tubes (1") The numbers before the words like the 4-8 and the 6-7, is that the size of how many needles can fit in the tube or what? I know this is a very dumb and new question but I want to learn everything I can before I buy a thing. Thanks. |
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Jan 19 2009, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (Gnarbootz @ Jan 19 2009, 12:42 AM) Hi, I am new to this site and had a question for this string. I see it hasnt been wrote on for a long time but I am very new to this and am trying to learn all I can. This was at the top of this Supply List. Tubes: 4-8 Round Tubes (5/8") 4-5 Flat Tubes (1") 6-7 Flat Tubes (1") The numbers before the words like the 4-8 and the 6-7, is that the size of how many needles can fit in the tube or what? I know this is a very dumb and new question but I want to learn everything I can before I buy a thing. Thanks. Most tubes/tips will fit a range of similar needle configurations which is what you describe above. Some suppliers give you specific tubes/tips for a specific needle i.e. a 5RL into a 5 round tip/tube. Others will give you a tip/tube which will fit 2 or 3 different sizes of needles. Cheers TC -------------------- If you haven't fallen off yet you're obviously not trying hard enough!
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Jan 19 2009, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE (topcattatz @ Jan 19 2009, 06:10 AM) Most tubes/tips will fit a range of similar needle configurations which is what you describe above. Some suppliers give you specific tubes/tips for a specific needle i.e. a 5RL into a 5 round tip/tube. Others will give you a tip/tube which will fit 2 or 3 different sizes of needles. Cheers TC Thanks, any suggestions on tubes listed above? |
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