Guidelines for Giving Feedback
Guidelines for Giving FeedbackPlease consider the following when giving feedback on a member's tattoo:
Line work: Does the artist seem to have grasped the technique of applying smooth, consistent lines? Do the lines flow with no shakes, skips or blow-outs?
Fill: Are all color and black areas a consistent color?
Shading: Does the tattoo show smooth gradients and transition effectively from light to dark?
Color Harmony: Does the tattoo have colors that compliment each other?
Placement/Size: Does the tattoo seem to be the right size for the area chosen? Is it centered and lined up with any other work? Does it go with the flow of the body?
Design: How well does the overall design work? Does it have sound composition? Does it feel well thought out?
Feedback: What areas could be improved?
New Rule, Regarding Prison style tattoos |
 Dec 7 2007, 05:19 PM
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From now on any posts regarding Prison Style or Homey Made tattoos will be removed. If any member is seen promoting or doing tattoos with a prison style set up, that post will be deleted.
Any practices being used that are not being done to as professional a standard as possible will be deleted. Anyone condoning un-professional or makeshift short cuts to applying, caring for, set up or sterilization will be deleted. If anyone has a problem with this and does not conform to this will be given one warning only and then you will be deleted and your IP address will be blocked. If you come to me or any of the moderators with a rude attitude about this you will be deleted. THIS IS A WARNING AND VERY SERIOUS This forum is out of the realm of other professional forums in the fact that the info here is for the Professional hopeful. There is info here you would not get anywhere else. Most of you wouldn’t even be able to post your work in other forums without being kicked out. Please respect these rules so we can achieve a standard that is equal with other Tattoo forums. -------------------- |
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Jul 28 2008, 04:40 PM
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Does he use a straight up prison machine (walkman, pen, guitarstring, and a spoon or razor), or just a rotary? Most rotarys today use the same needles and tubes that regular machines use. There is nothing wrong with using a proper rotary machine, but I don't care how good they are, if they are unable to clean and sterilize the needles and tubes they should be stoppped. Like I said I have no idea what Ray uses. I did not see his machines in any of the pictures I saw. But the tats looked good.
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Jul 28 2008, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (loneferret @ Jul 28 2008, 09:29 PM)  What eric said ... times 2 -------------------- im pretty much done on this forum, you can reach me thru my website
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Jul 28 2008, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE (MickeyC @ Jul 28 2008, 05:40 PM) Does he use a straight up prison machine (walkman, pen, guitarstring, and a spoon or razor), or just a rotary? Most rotarys today use the same needles and tubes that regular machines use. There is nothing wrong with using a proper rotary machine, but I don't care how good they are, if they are unable to clean and sterilize the needles and tubes they should be stoppped. Like I said I have no idea what Ray uses. I did not see his machines in any of the pictures I saw. But the tats looked good. exactly , if you like a rotary use it we're talkin about walkman, guitar string setups . |
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Jul 28 2008, 05:01 PM
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So does anyone know if he uses a rotary of or a convict special.
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Jul 28 2008, 05:54 PM
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i have grown to love my rotary...easily wiped down and uses the standard disposables...
it also for me eliminates the guess work in tuning the coil machines.... i have read all about proper tuning procedures and can get my machines running just like suggested but they are heavy and i like something lighter...easier to work with for me almost like holding a pen in your hand...may not work for others but i personally like them http://cgi.ebay.com/SUPER-LIGHT-WEIGHT-ROT...1713.m153.l1262 this i what i am using right now... if anyone has any suggestions for a better rotary let me know... i sold off all of my machines except for my 1st build...gotta love a nice jonsey replica....keeping it as my color packer... the rotary is nice for whip shading also...just crank to volts down and it produces nice gradients... its the modern day version of what i was taught with... but i also agree proper cleaning is a must in this day and age... chuck -------------------- SOMETIMES WHAT YOU LEARN...CONFLICTS WITH WHAT YOU KNOW ADD ME FOR MAFIA WARS |
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 Nov 6 2008, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (CHUCK @ Jul 28 2008, 05:54 PM) i have grown to love my rotary...easily wiped down and uses the standard disposables... it also for me eliminates the guess work in tuning the coil machines.... i have read all about proper tuning procedures and can get my machines running just like suggested but they are heavy and i like something lighter...easier to work with for me almost like holding a pen in your hand...may not work for others but i personally like them I'm sure the majority of artists on here are simply grateful for the mutual respect, information and community here. learning how to do something right beats any amount of work arounds. Not having to deal with the resistance if not hostility usually dirrected at the self taught would I think make one not want to meret those ill feelings. The price of a machine should in no way be an excuse to use something so inferior as a guitar string "needle" or the ilk. ~The best advice I ever recieved about learning to tattoo was "DRAW ALL THE TIME" This is a small sidestep from the content of this thread but bear with me. That being said, about the rotary.. I have to admit to being very curious about the rotary machines. I first started learning on a pneumatic machine and loved how light weight and low maintanence they are. The rotary seems similar in ways you mentioned but I've never used one. The difference between a standard machine and a casset tape machine is obvious both in safty and lines but what's the deal with the rotary? If it can be cleaned and uses the same needles/tubes as a standard why do I see it referenced or used so little? What are it's drawbacks? Why would it be clumped in with home made machines of questionable rep? -------------------- ..................~*~.................... Easy to replace, impossible to duplicate. |
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Nov 17 2008, 05:44 PM
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There is nothing wrong with a rotary machine, There is a huge problem with a walkan motor on the end of a spoon and a mechanical pencil grip with a guitar string needle. We want people to practice safely and not show how to give Hep.
QUOTE (Isis in Vinyl @ Nov 6 2008, 09:30 PM) I'm sure the majority of artists on here are simply grateful for the mutual respect, information and community here. learning how to do something right beats any amount of work arounds. Not having to deal with the resistance if not hostility usually dirrected at the self taught would I think make one not want to meret those ill feelings. The price of a machine should in no way be an excuse to use something so inferior as a guitar string "needle" or the ilk. ~The best advice I ever recieved about learning to tattoo was "DRAW ALL THE TIME" This is a small sidestep from the content of this thread but bear with me. That being said, about the rotary.. I have to admit to being very curious about the rotary machines. I first started learning on a pneumatic machine and loved how light weight and low maintanence they are. The rotary seems similar in ways you mentioned but I've never used one. The difference between a standard machine and a casset tape machine is obvious both in safty and lines but what's the deal with the rotary? If it can be cleaned and uses the same needles/tubes as a standard why do I see it referenced or used so little? What are it's drawbacks? Why would it be clumped in with home made machines of questionable rep? -------------------- |
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May 24 2009, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (Isis in Vinyl @ Nov 6 2008, 03:30 PM) I'm sure the majority of artists on here are simply grateful for the mutual respect, information and community here. learning how to do something right beats any amount of work arounds. Not having to deal with the resistance if not hostility usually dirrected at the self taught would I think make one not want to meret those ill feelings. The price of a machine should in no way be an excuse to use something so inferior as a guitar string "needle" or the ilk. ~The best advice I ever recieved about learning to tattoo was "DRAW ALL THE TIME" This is a small sidestep from the content of this thread but bear with me. That being said, about the rotary.. I have to admit to being very curious about the rotary machines. I first started learning on a pneumatic machine and loved how light weight and low maintanence they are. The rotary seems similar in ways you mentioned but I've never used one. The difference between a standard machine and a casset tape machine is obvious both in safty and lines but what's the deal with the rotary? If it can be cleaned and uses the same needles/tubes as a standard why do I see it referenced or used so little? What are it's drawbacks? Why would it be clumped in with home made machines of questionable rep? HOLY CRAP... you STARTED on a neuma?! |
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May 25 2009, 08:31 PM
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ya i agree on the safety part of tattooing on this site should be "prison rigged" but this IS NOT a professional tattoo artist site. 95% of the people on this site ARE NOT professional tattoo artist and AYNONE i dont care who they are that dont have respect for well done prison tattoos or art is ignorant no exeptions I seen art on peoples bodys when i was locked up better than any thing i every seen. and just a reminder black and gray fine line tattoo was invented in california state prisons it a fact!!
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May 26 2009, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE (Kliff @ May 25 2009, 09:31 PM) ya i agree on the safety part of tattooing on this site should be "prison rigged" but this IS NOT a professional tattoo artist site. 95% of the people on this site ARE NOT professional tattoo artist and AYNONE i dont care who they are that dont have respect for well done prison tattoos or art is ignorant no exeptions I seen art on peoples bodys when i was locked up better than any thing i every seen. and just a reminder black and gray fine line tattoo was invented in california state prisons it a fact!! dude i think you are totally missing the point here.... read the whole thread and you will get the jist of it... -------------------- Nosferatu1812@yahoo.com
CLICK ME " Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy,and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty"- Plato |
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May 26 2009, 07:14 AM
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i agree with the health and safety. yes i too have seen good work on people when i asked where they got it they were like prision. point is we are not talking about the art or how good it looks, we are talking about the safety of the machines, the safety and health of the person getting the tattoo and the person doing the tattoo.
-------------------- We are all just prisoners here of our own device.....
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May 26 2009, 07:48 AM
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Bambi & Noz have said it all. This isn't a "learn how to tattoo prison style" forum.
We choose what flies & what doesn't. This site was created precisely to discourage people from practising "prison style" tattooing & to constantly underline the importance of using clean practises using proper equipment. Ancient peoples used filthy animal bones, thorns and rusty iron spikes to tattoo, using ink made from spit, urine & soot... We don't recommend that either.... -------------------- We are all laying in the gutter but some of us are looking for spare change...
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May 26 2009, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE (Kliff @ May 25 2009, 08:31 PM) ya i agree on the safety part of tattooing on this site should be "prison rigged" but this IS NOT a professional tattoo artist site. 95% of the people on this site ARE NOT professional tattoo artist and AYNONE i dont care who they are that dont have respect for well done prison tattoos or art is ignorant no exeptions I seen art on peoples bodys when i was locked up better than any thing i every seen. and just a reminder black and gray fine line tattoo was invented in california state prisons it a fact!! we might not all be professonals, but i for one , and many other forum members spend the money to do things right. I have just bought a heap of disposable grips, even just to use on pig, simply beacause i dont want to pick up any bad habbits, sorry for going of at a tangent -------------------- [color="#FF00FF"][/color][size="5"][/size]
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Sep 10 2009, 09:55 AM
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Very good call!
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Sep 10 2009, 10:09 AM
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its probably allready been said - but yeah its a fair point that some good work can and has been done using a prison machine but....
if we were to allow the posting of the stuff or people using the machines etc then its basically like saying it is ok to do so - wich it really isnt - i like to think of this forum as a base point to begin a career in tattooing - where you can come for help with your art work, put together a good portfolio - learn the do's and donts and allow yourself to stand out from the rest of the many people that are in search of an apprentice - i know for sure id stand a bigger chance if i were to go ask for one now - as i can post my work here and get peoples opinions on how to improve, ive built up a lot of knowledge on tattooing itself and would be confident with procedeures in a shop rather than going in off the street with a couple quickly drawn scribbles and looking around clueless like lurch off the adams family lol i really dont think prison style tattoo's need to be done unless your in prison - and then its debateable - you can pick up a cheap enoughg machine to tattoo safely - who is gonna take you seriously holding a bent spoon and a hitatchi motor cellotaped to the top? not only does it look bad - its unsafe same with you-tube - im sick of seeing there how to build a tattoo gun videos - here how we do it spoon motor cellotape?!?!?!?!?!?! and then idiots saying - burn the needle to sterilize??!?!?!? they may as well title the damn things - how to get hep c and watch your arm fall off from infection in 10 easy steps -------------------- Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian
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