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A Little About The Its Power Supply, Reasons why it won't last long.
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loneferret
post Dec 13 2007, 04:36 AM
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Ok, well I don't want to pretend I know everything, It's been a while since I've done any electronics. Still remember the basics.
Power supplies would be one of those things.

Figured I'd share my findings on the ITS power supply that came with my kit. It still works mind you, just not well.
Odds are my machine issues are related to my power supply.

What makes a good power supply? Well the quality of the components, the way the circuit board is designed, overload/surge protection
good heat dissipation and quality of the output. The high end bench PSUs used in electronics will run in the 500$+ range.
The ITS is not, what I would call, a good power supply. It's perfect for small circuit testing. Circuits like a LED chasers, or small LED VU meter.
Things that don't need much power (500mA, 1A MAX). A tattoo machine can take up to 2 Amps.
Something this power supply can handle, just not for very long.


Here are some of the reasons:



I've built a few 0-5 and 0-12 volt power supplies for projects and finals at school. This PSU is very basic 5volt PSU with the regulator
changed to give give 30 volts. Normally this wouldn't be a bad thing, but since a tattoo machine can take up to 2 amps the heat sink
is not the ideal model. Also, the casing itself is not designed for the placement of the circuit either. Heat rises, so vents should have been
cut on top, and not on the sides like it is now.

Another thing is the lack of protection. The circuit has no IC (integrated circuit.. a chip basically) to project from power surges and overload. Good power supplies
are designed to shut down before damage can done to themselves and whatever "load" is using it.
The "load" is your machine is this case.

And the famous analog volt meter. Just because it's analog doesn't mean it's not accurate. Unfortunately this one is. Good meters will usually have there own little
power supply so they can do there job correctly without leeching power (Analog and Digital). The one that's used in the ITS, of course does not have this. It's plugged parallel to the power
output, hence dividing the amps supplied by the PSU. What does this mean? Well the ITS power supply is not only giving power to your machine, but also to the needle.




This one shocked me. The whole unit is not even grounded, and a few wires are lose... lol

So ITS is selling this stuff how much? 80$ USD
I can tell you right now, you could build this for under 30$. The most expensive pieces are the knob, transformer and casing.
The rest of the parts are all under 2$ each.


Hope this helps a bit. Of course I'm missing a few details, but at least it gives you an idea why
someone would need to buy a new power supply not long after one receives his ITS kit.


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- loneferret   A Little About The Its Power Supply   Dec 13 2007, 04:36 AM
- - Drop'n INK   Great review loneferret, I use to have one and dit...   Dec 13 2007, 07:57 AM
- - SlickSquid   Wow...thats a break down product for your ass righ...   Dec 13 2007, 11:00 AM
- - bulldog joe   i have an i.t.s mine that ive had for a few years ...   Dec 13 2007, 01:50 PM
- - Supreme   I have one of the ITS PS that is digital and has a...   Dec 13 2007, 06:04 PM
- - skoda19   i second that supreme, mine does the exact same...   Dec 13 2007, 06:29 PM
|- - Supreme   QUOTE(skoda19 @ Dec 13 2007, 09:29 PM) i ...   Dec 14 2007, 04:10 AM
|- - Coggy   QUOTE (Supreme @ Dec 14 2007, 12:10 PM) A...   Feb 19 2009, 11:27 PM
- - mark   do you think you could do a tutorial of what is ne...   Dec 13 2007, 07:14 PM
|- - loneferret   QUOTE(mark @ Dec 13 2007, 10:14 PM) do yo...   Dec 13 2007, 11:48 PM
||- - monkeyrat   QUOTE(loneferret @ Dec 14 2007, 07:48 AM)...   Dec 15 2007, 08:54 AM
|- - crotalus258   QUOTE(mark @ Dec 13 2007, 11:14 PM) do yo...   Dec 15 2007, 03:28 PM
- - Pink3unny   don't know if this is of any use but i picked ...   Dec 13 2007, 08:20 PM
- - andrew   mine died!!! haha i cant try my forgi...   Dec 14 2007, 05:09 AM
- - Fireguzzi   Would be really coool to have a parts list for bui...   Dec 15 2007, 06:41 AM
- - DELETED   ?? lol   Dec 15 2007, 07:08 AM
- - loneferret   You're right, a good battery will give a nice ...   Dec 16 2007, 02:57 AM
- - insight   I am also very interested in power supply. I have ...   Dec 16 2007, 10:40 AM
- - voodoo2   A good fan blowing on the heat sink would help...   Dec 16 2007, 03:40 PM
|- - loneferret   QUOTE(voodoo2 @ Dec 16 2007, 06:40 PM) A ...   Dec 16 2007, 04:14 PM
- - mark   here is the only problem with batteries. I'm s...   Dec 18 2007, 01:50 AM
|- - loneferret   QUOTE(mark @ Dec 18 2007, 04:50 AM) here ...   Dec 18 2007, 03:38 AM
- - andrew   maybe i will build one after i biuld my light tabl...   Dec 18 2007, 07:07 AM
- - loneferret   Well good luck with your build... I'm still wa...   Dec 18 2007, 11:34 AM
- - voodoo2   Cheap parts is cheap parts...But if u had a fan in...   Dec 18 2007, 01:54 PM
- - loneferret   Doesn't run hot enough to need a fan, and ther...   Dec 18 2007, 02:58 PM
- - andrew   yea i think you should cut 1 or 2 spuares out of t...   Dec 18 2007, 02:58 PM
- - loneferret   No really, it doesn't need a fan. LOL My mach...   Dec 18 2007, 03:06 PM
|- - mark   QUOTE(loneferret @ Dec 18 2007, 11:06 PM)...   Dec 18 2007, 03:54 PM
- - andrew   yea but you going to be running it for long period...   Dec 18 2007, 04:01 PM
- - mark   since we are talking about over heating I have tat...   Dec 18 2007, 04:21 PM
- - andrew   i want a cyclone!!!!!!...   Dec 18 2007, 04:44 PM
- - mark   it's plastic weighs less then a pound actually...   Dec 18 2007, 04:54 PM
- - loneferret   I guess when you look at it that way, over time he...   Dec 18 2007, 05:07 PM
- - andrew   im here to tell you stuff lol..... and i have had ...   Dec 18 2007, 06:09 PM
- - mark   thats all well in good but once you get into a bus...   Dec 18 2007, 08:27 PM
- - andrew   its not like that here in australia lol... its all...   Dec 18 2007, 08:57 PM
- - Lucky   Can the OP post pictures of the outside of the sup...   Feb 27 2008, 11:14 PM
- - ElDubya   My cheapy PSU that came with my original kit (of w...   Feb 27 2008, 11:37 PM
- - kattat   Don't buy cheap ass kits, and you won't ha...   Feb 28 2008, 03:27 AM
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- - ElDubya   QUOTE (kattat @ Feb 28 2008, 09:27 PM) Do...   Feb 28 2008, 04:20 AM
- - Lucky   I gotta say, I started with a kit, but I must have...   Feb 28 2008, 05:30 AM
|- - bubba   cyclones are shit, period. wont last, too many pro...   May 9 2008, 08:19 PM
- - rfwillis   Just started doing a quick "build own power s...   May 15 2008, 04:18 AM
- - Blink   You have got to bear in mind that EVERYTHING you b...   Jan 9 2009, 12:56 PM
- - Lazy Bandit   Bear in mind that alot of trouble can be caused be...   Jan 11 2009, 12:25 PM
- - Gnarbootz   Now I got a little confused, I dont know to much a...   Jan 19 2009, 09:31 AM
|- - loneferret   QUOTE (Gnarbootz @ Jan 19 2009, 12:31 PM)...   Jan 19 2009, 10:47 AM
|- - PAINT   QUOTE (loneferret @ Jan 20 2009, 07:47 AM...   Jan 19 2009, 01:17 PM
||- - loneferret   QUOTE (PAINT @ Jan 19 2009, 05:17 PM) wow...   Jan 19 2009, 01:26 PM
|- - Gnarbootz   QUOTE (loneferret @ Jan 19 2009, 02:47 PM...   Jan 19 2009, 03:43 PM
- - loneferret   I was just pointing out how a power supply works i...   Jan 19 2009, 03:58 PM
|- - Gnarbootz   QUOTE (loneferret @ Jan 19 2009, 07:58 PM...   Jan 19 2009, 05:13 PM
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- - DEMON   OH NO! I was just being a smart ass! I can...   Jan 21 2009, 07:38 PM
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- - ElDubya   Posted May 10 2008, 02:19 PM QUOTE cyclones are s...   Jan 28 2009, 01:25 AM
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