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Plz Help, Back Springs On Two Machines By Checkmate Keep Breaking |
 Aug 19 2009, 04:23 AM
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Got me.....coils need shimming?Angle of spring deck calls for front edge to bevelled?But surely the builder would have took care of those?I dunno....clutching at straws
-------------------- GENTLEMAN LOSER -- INTERNATIONAL SLUM DOG -- ON A FARM
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Aug 19 2009, 04:35 AM
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you have bother with those purple unimax's too paint?
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Aug 19 2009, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (deerfaced @ Aug 20 2009, 12:35 AM)  you have bother with those purple unimax's too paint? ha ha yeah ya noticed that huh, i have to grind em in there -------------------- The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them. |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:46 PM
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you and me both buddy.
your machine is hella pretty dude. those coils kick ass. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:31 PM
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i would venture to guess its because the spring saddle is not flush with the deck like it over hangs which i would imagine would stress the spring and maybe be a little raspy? the liner never broke a spring and doesnt have the saddle hanging out
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Aug 22 2009, 10:58 AM
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Anyone gonna break the omerta and tell?
-------------------- GENTLEMAN LOSER -- INTERNATIONAL SLUM DOG -- ON A FARM
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Aug 22 2009, 12:42 PM
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i spoke to CM...
heres the deal.. ive had a few issuses lately ..very strange ..all at once within 2 weeks.. same with Bubba S. and it turns out CM too.. all within the past 2 weeks ive had 5 springs snap with in the past 4 days on my personal machines ..Bubba has had issues also on his personal machines . now i dont use deck plates ..personal or otherwise. ive done the same as i have for years ..ive been doing this for awhile ... i use mainly eikon but also : Joey D Aaron C springs .. so i would bet a large sum of $$that it is the quality of the spring stock..id aklso wager that you'll be hearing more of this from other builders soon. A. |
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Aug 22 2009, 01:33 PM
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so forgiven, correct me if im wrong but your saying they all the builders are getting fucked over with shitty spring stock, and the place to buy springs right now is eikon, joey d, and arron c?? btw what are deckplates? the square piece of metal used to hold down the spring? if so what do you use now instead of deackplates?
-------------------- I haven't failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work.[http://www.facebook.com/p/Marc_Chislett/623005117
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Aug 22 2009, 02:46 PM
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NO NO! Aaron Cain, Joey D and Eikon are the springs that I have had problems with personally, i had a brand new Aaron Cain shader, lasted three days, broke the rear spring, sent a replacement, broke same day, so it has nothing to with the spring deck washer, it is important to have that, not just a grabbing of straws, got that info from Brian Hibbard. So until the cheap spring stock gets gone through, id be cutting my own of old stock.
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Aug 22 2009, 04:01 PM
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what kind of springs has emcee been breaking?
so the over hang on the top has nothing to do with it? i know my machine runs wierd if mines like that i cut a bunch of springs for my machines last week outta feeler gage...maybe thats a better alternative....cheap too compared to a set from eikon |
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Aug 22 2009, 05:09 PM
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i dont know, whatever checkmate uses on his machines, i did file down the corner on my spring shelf and move the deck plate back so it is not hanging over and my liner seems to be holding up so far, although ive only used it for about 6 hours, so that could change...
-------------------- I haven't failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work.[http://www.facebook.com/p/Marc_Chislett/623005117
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Aug 22 2009, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (emcee2 @ Aug 22 2009, 05:33 PM) so forgiven, correct me if im wrong but your saying they all the builders are getting fucked over with shitty spring stock, and the place to buy springs right now is eikon, joey d, and arron c?? btw what are deckplates? the square piece of metal used to hold down the spring? if so what do you use now instead of deackplates? i buy large quanities of springs i buy eikon -joey d-luckys it seems like the last batch of springs ive bought have not been up to par with the springs ive bought in the past 4 yrs . i use washers or coins . the paulos (frames checkmate uses) have had no changes in geometry /angles/sharpness ,so in my humble opinion it has nothing to do with the frames ...but what the fuck do i know ? it looks like its time to break out the old eikon stock. A. |
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Aug 22 2009, 09:12 PM
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springs break, all the time. IF a springs breaks, put a new one on, retune and tattoo, apprentice shit 101. Everyone can respring and retune a machine right?
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Aug 22 2009, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE (bubba sparks @ Aug 23 2009, 12:12 AM) springs break, all the time. IF a springs breaks, put a new one on, retune and tattoo, apprentice shit 101. Everyone can respring and retune a machine right? if your springs are breaking all the time then id say there is a problem somewhere...which would in turn be a waste of time and money to let it go unfixed i think |
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Aug 22 2009, 11:54 PM
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yeah, i just dont think i should have to respring a machine 3x a week.
-------------------- I haven't failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work.[http://www.facebook.com/p/Marc_Chislett/623005117
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Aug 23 2009, 12:01 AM
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maybe ya wont have to if it was that saddle
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Aug 23 2009, 04:37 AM
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yeah, hopefully, and bubba, i have two other machines that i use daily that ive never had to replace anything on for the past two years.
-------------------- I haven't failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work.[http://www.facebook.com/p/Marc_Chislett/623005117
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Aug 23 2009, 07:18 AM
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might not have been making machines for as long as some folk, but i have made over 70 machines now, and i have only ever had one machine break a spring that i know of
and i do try to keep in touch with all the people that have/use may machines , i find that a spring is likely to dull (wear out) before it breaks , it should be replaced when it dulls a spring will not last for ever even if it dont break, THEY DO WEAR OUT |
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Aug 23 2009, 08:13 AM
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eventually yah
This post has been edited by mark101: Aug 23 2009, 08:16 AM |
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Aug 23 2009, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE (mark101 @ Aug 23 2009, 08:13 AM) eventually yah how many hours working would a spring last? , i know its not an easy question but on average 500 hrs 1000hrs or is it a unknown |
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