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Hot Hot Hot Coils!, I'm an amateur |
 Sep 29 2009, 01:50 PM
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So I'm feeling pretty stupid all around these days. For having spent so much time as an apprentice and not being able to answer this question for myself, and for spending so much time at a shop in the hopes that if I was patient, I would get more machine time and eventually the shop would have more artists that I could turn to with questions like this - since my "mentor" spent most days playing xbox at the shop.
SO, I'm having some problems with my machine - never used it before, always used his. It runs beautifully and smooth at a slow voltage.. for about 5 minutes, then it randomly stops, crank the voltage, works again, for a minute, then stops. After about 10 minutes the coils were on fire. I tried switching up the clip cord, checked bands, etc. I could get it to go for a second by manually pulling down on the armature bar but as soon as I let off the foot pedal it's done again. If I crank it to an extreme voltage it will go, but it's jackhammering at that point. I'm pretty sure it's not the power source, its an eikon ems 300. The first time I ever hooked up the liner It was to some crappy PSU and it had to be cranked to an extreme voltage, spitting sparks, etc and I was told to invest in a better PSU, but not I think there must be something else that I'm missing. I just wanted to see if anyone could think of any possible causes for this besides the machine itself - I dont want to waste the builders time if it is something I am doing, obviously. Thanks guys |
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Oct 4 2009, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE (skoda19 @ Oct 4 2009, 09:53 AM)  spent a day on them both trying to tune them, thought i had them nailed but when i tattooed with them today they were pretty bad. had to change back to my old machines. just seems not fair to me after shelling out 400usd on something i was promised to run like a dream, straight out of the box. both thoes frames are not ideal for a cutback setup, if i were you id be trying to set them up as traditional shaders/color packers. -------------------- The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them. |
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Oct 4 2009, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (PAINT @ Oct 4 2009, 12:21 PM) both thoes frames are not ideal for a cutback setup, if i were you id be trying to set them up as traditional shaders/color packers. these pics dont show it , but ive seen pics of both sides of the frames, the holes for the front binders are slotted like this one  they can be made cut backs but itll take new springs & moving the binders both simple shit -------------------- im pretty much done on this forum, you can reach me thru my website
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Oct 4 2009, 10:25 AM
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seems to be a few dodgy machines from this same guy on this thread.
wonder what explaination there could be. 2 years ago i bought 2 machines off him and they still run sweet. are his latest works turning to shit? |
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Oct 4 2009, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (skoda19 @ Oct 3 2009, 01:53 PM) i'd gladly pay someone who knows what they're doing to fix these for me. i would tell you to send it to me for a rebuild, but since you are in the UK, send it to my good friend mark101. hit ' him up he will sort you out  |
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Oct 4 2009, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (haric @ Oct 4 2009, 03:32 PM) i would tell you to send it to me for a rebuild, but since you are in the UK, send it to my good friend mark101. hit ' him up he will sort you out yup, thats that ticket -------------------- im pretty much done on this forum, you can reach me thru my website
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Oct 4 2009, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (MARKT4LYF @ Oct 5 2009, 05:00 AM) these pics dont show it , but ive seen pics of both sides of the frames, the holes for the front binders are slotted like this one they can be made cut backs but itll take new springs & moving the binders both simple shit i thought they would be able to slot back just didnt look like there would be room for front binder contact screw and clearance for a spring if pushed back. you can see where the slot ends just over the center of the front coil, pushed that far back i dont think would make a very nice cutback. could be wrong, probably am wrong -------------------- The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them. |
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Oct 4 2009, 10:46 AM
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maybe its just my opinion, but i find that for a cutback, the front binder sitting over the front coil core is great, & the spring/binder issue wouldnt be a problem with less angle on the spring
ps aufwe, sorry bout jackin the thread This post has been edited by MARKT4LYF: Oct 4 2009, 10:50 AM -------------------- im pretty much done on this forum, you can reach me thru my website
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Oct 5 2009, 05:19 AM
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QUOTE (PAINT @ Oct 4 2009, 08:21 AM) both thoes frames are not ideal for a cutback setup, if i were you id be trying to set them up as traditional shaders/color packers. those frames make really good proper cutbacks they make good long stroke liners aswell lol |
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Oct 5 2009, 07:18 AM
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QUOTE (mark101 @ Oct 5 2009, 06:19 AM) those frames make really good proper cutbacks they make good long stroke liners aswell lol yeah if the frame is built corectly |
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Oct 5 2009, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE (buzzbrush @ Oct 5 2009, 08:18 AM) yeah if the frame is built corectly i think they are paulos frames if they are then they are built properly |
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Oct 5 2009, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE (mark101 @ Oct 6 2009, 02:19 AM) those frames make really good proper cutbacks they make good long stroke liners aswell lol hmm il admit defeat and go sit in the corner now. -------------------- The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them. |
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Oct 7 2009, 06:52 PM
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So I talked briefly to the builder - and sent 'em back for him to mess with. I'll let you guys know how it all works out. Thanks for all the help.
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Oct 7 2009, 07:35 PM
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well hope to here good news
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Oct 7 2009, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE (Aufwe @ Oct 8 2009, 03:52 AM) So I talked briefly to the builder - and sent 'em back for him to mess with. I'll let you guys know how it all works out. Thanks for all the help. lucky enough you're in the us. it would cost me a fortune to send mine back to him from the uk. let us know how it goes. |
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