Guidelines for Giving Feedback
Guidelines for Giving FeedbackPlease consider the following when giving feedback on a member's tattoo:
Line work: Does the artist seem to have grasped the technique of applying smooth, consistent lines? Do the lines flow with no shakes, skips or blow-outs?
Fill: Are all color and black areas a consistent color?
Shading: Does the tattoo show smooth gradients and transition effectively from light to dark?
Color Harmony: Does the tattoo have colors that compliment each other?
Placement/Size: Does the tattoo seem to be the right size for the area chosen? Is it centered and lined up with any other work? Does it go with the flow of the body?
Design: How well does the overall design work? Does it have sound composition? Does it feel well thought out?
Feedback: What areas could be improved?
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Hitting Skins Again, rose pigskin |
 Oct 15 2009, 03:47 AM
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did another pigskin, done with 5RL and 12RS, making progress?
forgot to shade one of the petals lol  thanks -------------------- "Life is the hardest teacher, she gives the test first and the lesson afterwards"
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Oct 15 2009, 06:14 AM
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the edges look like they need refinement ,and there are a few what seem like 'double lines'(maybe its just the stencil line). If you missed the colour/shade on a client do you think he would let it go?
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Oct 15 2009, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE (mac_1au @ Oct 15 2009, 07:14 AM)  If you missed the colour/shade on a client do you think he would let it go? That's yet another beautiful thing about pig skin practice. The pig just don't care.  Great! A mag would have been quicker and easier. I see you strayed off the stencil line a few times. Par for the course. You probably already know this, but keep your eye ahead of the needle. Keep your eye on where you need to go, and the needle will follow.  -------------------- |
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Oct 15 2009, 10:36 AM
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Forgot to shade ONE of the petals??
 ???........and like JD pointed out..."Hand follows Eye"....that works well for life in general too  ...keep yer fingers that way.12RS?? .... i see a 7M1.....I like mags over rounds as well....helps damage control. I've yet to use an RM but hear great things. Oh yeah.throw a ruler or coin in your future photos...it helps. Lines lack "confidence" ..you'll get that. (........................here piggy-piggy-piggy!.............) This post has been edited by Stoneface: Oct 15 2009, 11:02 AM -------------------- If you ain't livin' on the edge, you're takin' up too much space.
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Oct 15 2009, 12:32 PM
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haha iknow man how the fuck do you forget to do a petal, madness
whats a 7M1? and whats a round mag is that the same as a round shader? yer I went out of the stencil afew timeson this one. im hearing more and more to use mags instead of rounds to shade ima try that tommorrow I think -------------------- "Life is the hardest teacher, she gives the test first and the lesson afterwards"
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Oct 15 2009, 12:34 PM
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haha iknow man how the fuck do you forget to do a petal, madness
whats a 7M1? and whats a round mag is that the same as a round shader? yer I went out of the stencil afew timeson this one. im hearing more and more to use mags instead of rounds to shade ima try that tommorrow I think can you do portrait style pieces with mags yeah? like really powdery soft subtle tones almost like pencil shading? that elephant that mario did was with rounds although im thinking its experience that lets him use that -------------------- "Life is the hardest teacher, she gives the test first and the lesson afterwards"
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Oct 19 2009, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (Tez @ Oct 15 2009, 03:34 PM) haha iknow man how the fuck do you forget to do a petal, madness whats a 7M1? and whats a round mag is that the same as a round shader? yer I went out of the stencil afew timeson this one. im hearing more and more to use mags instead of rounds to shade ima try that tommorrow I think can you do portrait style pieces with mags yeah? like really powdery soft subtle tones almost like pencil shading? that elephant that mario did was with rounds although im thinking its experience that lets him use that a 7m1 is a weaved 7 mag...theres a top and bottom row of needles and they alternate 1 up 1 down...they also have bugpins or stacked mags or m2s which are tighter...and yea you can use mags for portraits...curved mags are really good for blending and/or portraits...check out some of Nikkos stuff...he uses curved bugpin mags for his portrait work almost no lines sometimes curved mags are referred to as roundED mags....essentially all the needle tips line up like this ) instead of flats and m1 or m2 where the tips are all lined up straight This post has been edited by dRock13: Oct 19 2009, 04:02 PM |
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Oct 19 2009, 04:48 PM
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dont shade with rounds. Its easier and faster using a good ol' mag
the leaves could be bigger. -------------------- |
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Oct 19 2009, 05:58 PM
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Yeah you need to get yourself some mags man. I did the same thing when I started out. I used round shaders. However once I started using mags there was no turning back.
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Oct 20 2009, 01:35 AM
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thanks for the advice Ive got some mags but havent really tried them too much, makes sense that it would be alllot quicker though
-------------------- "Life is the hardest teacher, she gives the test first and the lesson afterwards"
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Oct 20 2009, 03:29 AM
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Just started using curved 7 mags myself, (following good advice from this site) they do put ink in faster and with less trauma, but, I still use a round Shader to get my colour right up close to the outline, I know with practise I will not use rounds as much, but, I will always keep a few at hand. I found it easier to "shovel" the ink in when using mags, my technique is more of a pushing motion forward and back and cross hatching added as opposed to small circles...as usual each to their own,Peace ot P.
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Oct 21 2009, 04:51 PM
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not too bad. pig just doesn't take ink quite as easy as real skin. and the stencil will not come off pig. i am still easing into mags myself. i was real interested in what guy says about mags in his Q&A that mario posted in tips & techniques. he talks about spreading the needles on mags to add space between which makes them less firm and more able to brush the ink at different levels provided supreme control on gradients. so can anyone tell me, are the round mags more spread out? for us that us pre-made, disposables and do not make our own groupings, how do we go about achieving that spread out mag that guy discusses? i know you can use a razor blade to spread needles, is that going to be the only option? practice will be necessary to acheive consistency as usual.
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Oct 21 2009, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (inkling @ Oct 21 2009, 04:51 PM) not too bad. pig just doesn't take ink quite as easy as real skin. and the stencil will not come off pig. i am still easing into mags myself. i was real interested in what guy says about mags in his Q&A that mario posted in tips & techniques. he talks about spreading the needles on mags to add space between which makes them less firm and more able to brush the ink at different levels provided supreme control on gradients. so can anyone tell me, are the round mags more spread out? for us that us pre-made, disposables and do not make our own groupings, how do we go about achieving that spread out mag that guy discusses? i know you can use a razor blade to spread needles, is that going to be the only option? practice will be necessary to acheive consistency as usual. Have you tried M1 mags? They're pretty spread out, and I really like the gradients I can get with them. -------------------- |
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Oct 21 2009, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (J.D. @ Oct 21 2009, 07:04 PM) Have you tried M1 mags? They're pretty spread out, and I really like the gradients I can get with them. i have. just curious about how "spread out" guy was talking about. it sounded like he liked them spread out considerably compared to a standard weaved or stacked mag. on top of how incredible well he explains making and using greywash caps, he goes into detail at least twice on how he really likes to spread his mags for a soft application. he talked about how well it allows building gradient; similar is some respects to how mario talks about using 14rs on his elephant greywash. by getting the mag really spread out, you allow for easier skin penetration (less resistance) and thus less injury. no reason for me to explain any further, it's all there in guy's q&a. |
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Oct 21 2009, 08:56 PM
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I think he was referring to M1 mags/weaved mags. He mentions stacked mags and spread mags. Stacked are M2 and spread are M1. I could be wrong, but I feel pretty confident he's talking about M1 mags.
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Oct 22 2009, 07:16 AM
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I hit the solder with a lighter real quick, use the exacto, or both....but not always.
 Looking forward to reading that bit(elephant) This post has been edited by Stoneface: Oct 22 2009, 07:17 AM -------------------- If you ain't livin' on the edge, you're takin' up too much space.
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Oct 22 2009, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE (Stoneface @ Oct 22 2009, 08:16 AM) I hit the solder with a lighter real quick, use the exacto, or both....but not always. Looking forward to reading that bit(elephant) That's a good proven old school method, but with no autoclave, it may not be the most ideal. -------------------- |
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