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Please consider the following when giving feedback on a member's tattoo:

Line work: Does the artist seem to have grasped the technique of applying smooth, consistent lines? Do the lines flow with no shakes, skips or blow-outs?

Fill: Are all color and black areas a consistent color?

Shading: Does the tattoo show smooth gradients and transition effectively from light to dark?

Color Harmony:
Does the tattoo have colors that compliment each other?

Placement/Size:
Does the tattoo seem to be the right size for the area chosen? Is it centered and lined up with any other work? Does it go with the flow of the body?

Design: How well does the overall design work? Does it have sound composition? Does it feel well thought out?

Feedback: What areas could be improved?

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post Nov 6 2009, 05:51 AM
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alrigth well finally i had some time with miss chikken last night n she was helpin me out i was more or less learning to line from the needle aswell as shade from the tip of the mag aswell so it was more a learning exeriance than a lets make this look good ... but to me i love it

what i see wrong ... the hat its so close to my cock i couldnt get a good strech and line so it was pretty nad ... for some realon on the brim i dediced to leave a gap and it looks horrible ... and thiers a few spots that need a bit more saturation ... also blood looks a bit bright but it should calm down ...

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post Nov 6 2009, 06:07 AM
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i like it ! allot !...

apart from what you have pointed out i think its a good piece....i like the blood as it is.

i would have put the hat on the piggy , and not above it tilted to the side slightly...my two cents anyway
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post Nov 6 2009, 06:13 AM
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Blood is pretty much spot on,P.


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post Nov 6 2009, 06:18 AM
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lovely stuff. i like the piggy's face colouring. and the torch/bone combo.
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post Nov 6 2009, 06:48 AM
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i like this dude.. not too in love with the hat.. color is spot on on the pig. linework is nice also.


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post Nov 6 2009, 07:40 AM
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shit is fire...i think this iz ur best shit... the rim of the hat kinda fuked uo looking ... but this (i think) iz ur best work so far ... sad cuz i wanted to rape u on the feedback .. long story short id wear it ....


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post Nov 6 2009, 08:33 AM
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^ thats fine i got raped on my last 1 .. JD mario and supermimmy ripped me like 5 new assholes so im still sore .. hahah

thanx all .... chikken thank u for rubbing my pig next to my cock it made me super happy hahah smile.gif


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post Nov 6 2009, 09:14 AM
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i love it...... sure hat can be sorted when its healed
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think some small details in yellow badge would make it pop
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post Nov 6 2009, 09:36 AM
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This is awesome. There's something about the hat that just seems a bit lacking compared to the rest. Gradients just don't feel as smooth......or something.

Nice work, mang.


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post Nov 6 2009, 09:51 AM
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Nice man. Nice use of black. Love the blood. Considering you're learning to ride the needle AND it's on you, I think you lined very well, and it looks like you learned a whole lot this tattoo. Props for your commitment to figuring out this art style.


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Having little to no experience with a machine, what does "riding the needle" mean? I've heard it alot.


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post Nov 6 2009, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (natebot @ Nov 6 2009, 11:18 AM) *
Having little to no experience with a machine, what does "riding the needle" mean? I've heard it alot.


Riding the tube is when you set your needle to extend out from the tube at your desired depth. That way, you can just run the tube tip along the skin and be sure you're getting a consistent depth. The positive of this is you get a consistent depth that makes for consistent line weight. It also assures you're not gonna go too deep which can lead to blowouts and keloid scarring. Downside is your ink puddles like a motherfucker and you can't see where you're going. You gotta learn to visualize where your needle is. Diamond tips are used for tube riding since there's that open gap at the tip to see the shiny part of the needle as you run your line.

Riding the needle is when you set your needle to hang much further out. You need to be very careful to keep control of your needle depth since you can now dig the needle as far into the skin as the needle is set out. Negative aspects of riding the needle are that if you can't control your depth, your lines are gonna either fall out because you went too shallow, or they can blow out or scar because you went too deep. A huge positive in riding the needle is, it puddles much less. You have much less ink to deal with cleaning up, and you can see where you're needle is going.

Riding the needle, I find also helps when dealing with big fluxuations in how thick or thin the skin is. Say for example the calf and shin. You have a meaty thick area like the calf, but then, if you have a tattoo that runs over the shin, then the skin gets super, super thin on the bone. If riding the tube, you'd have to stop and readjust your needle hang a few times mid tattoo. If you're riding the needle, you can just adjust your depth as you see fit on the fly. Riding the needle takes a lot of practice to be able to feel how deep your going.

A great way to get a good feel for riding the needle is to practice on fruit and pig. A lot of snagging will happen when starting out. You can avoid a lot of that on real skin by taking your time, and getting it right on the non living stuff. smile.gif


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This is your best piece. Guidance from an artist is always the best.


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post Nov 6 2009, 01:43 PM
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Way to go man you did good.
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post Nov 6 2009, 01:52 PM
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The title of this thread almost scared me away.......its like a train wreck,you gotta look blink.gif nice job dude,and even better no cocks smile.gif


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good work.

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post Nov 6 2009, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (J.D. @ Nov 6 2009, 12:45 PM) *
Riding the tube is when you set your needle to extend out from the tube at your desired depth. That way, you can just run the tube tip along the skin and be sure you're getting a consistent depth. The positive of this is you get a consistent depth that makes for consistent line weight. It also assures you're not gonna go too deep which can lead to blowouts and keloid scarring. Downside is your ink puddles like a motherfucker and you can't see where you're going. You gotta learn to visualize where your needle is. Diamond tips are used for tube riding since there's that open gap at the tip to see the shiny part of the needle as you run your line.

Riding the needle is when you set your needle to hang much further out. You need to be very careful to keep control of your needle depth since you can now dig the needle as far into the skin as the needle is set out. Negative aspects of riding the needle are that if you can't control your depth, your lines are gonna either fall out because you went too shallow, or they can blow out or scar because you went too deep. A huge positive in riding the needle is, it puddles much less. You have much less ink to deal with cleaning up, and you can see where you're needle is going.

Riding the needle, I find also helps when dealing with big fluxuations in how thick or thin the skin is. Say for example the calf and shin. You have a meaty thick area like the calf, but then, if you have a tattoo that runs over the shin, then the skin gets super, super thin on the bone. If riding the tube, you'd have to stop and readjust your needle hang a few times mid tattoo. If you're riding the needle, you can just adjust your depth as you see fit on the fly. Riding the needle takes a lot of practice to be able to feel how deep your going.

A great way to get a good feel for riding the needle is to practice on fruit and pig. A lot of snagging will happen when starting out. You can avoid a lot of that on real skin by taking your time, and getting it right on the non living stuff. smile.gif


Great explanation. Thanks.

So, is it more common to ride your tube or needle? (Sounds dirty) wink.gif


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QUOTE (natebot @ Nov 6 2009, 03:17 PM) *
Great explanation. Thanks.

So, is it more common to ride your tube or needle? (Sounds dirty) wink.gif


I think it's more common to ride the needle. But there are great tattoo artists who ride the tube.


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post Nov 6 2009, 04:49 PM
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riding the tube is def a easyer way and done more by apprentices and people just staring but some actually start riding the needle it just kinda prevents blowouts and so on ...

anyways thanx all for the comments .. het will be fixed once healed and im hoping to get some more of these tattoos soon but we will see ...


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