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Cheyenne Hawk Tattoo Machine, tried one and cant wait to buy one ....
NeumaWorldOrder
post Oct 9 2008, 07:03 PM
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OK so , with all of the fuss and talk about the Neuma Tattoo Machines (Air Powered) vs Traditional Tattoo Machines (Electric) I thought I should throw my .02 out there .

I dont like the Neuma for 2 reasons

1) You have to have several of them hooked to cumbersome air hoses while working (Shader , Liner , Color )
2) The compressor is noisy and hard to place in a shop without it sticking out like a sore thumb

So I stumbled across these


This machine is freaking crazy. I had the chance to try one out and it blew me away . Anyone else have a chance to use one? Likes , Dislikes?

I fell in love with this one because of the cartridge system . Tips that are removable and interchangeable . The needles are well made and the whole damn thing feels like a paint brush .


The tips are a little pricy , $50 for 10 of the cartridges . But its like buying a disposable razor i guess . The sell you the Razor for $3.99 and the Blades for $14.99

Dont think I am ready to make the switch just yet , but I am pretty darn close.

Here is a link to the site . I think they sell them on PainfulPleasures.com as well.

Hawk Tattoo Machine

ps- Brandon Bond backs these guys . And I know I have seen Mario Barth tattoo with one at a convention.





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post Oct 9 2008, 09:01 PM
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I haven't used one, but another guy at the shop used one. He loved them, but said the needles were expensive, there wasn't enough spread on the mags, and they don't make mags smaller than like an 11 i think. As far as the neumas go, the airhose is tiny and lighter than a clipcord. You can use one hose for as many machines as you want, and it comes in very long lengths. The artist at the shop I'm at just has his compressor in the back of the shop and I've never heard it run.
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post Oct 10 2008, 06:24 AM
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so whats the deal....no tuning or depth adjustments?


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post Oct 10 2008, 12:27 PM
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price of the machine and some cartridges to get going seems to be about the same ballpark as a basic neuma setup at least the prices I saw on one site...

if they would spend a few more bucks in design and maybe make some flash demos as to how the things function (basic demos and vids, not complete schematics) I think that would make people a lot more receptive... instead of keeping everything "black box" like, afraid of people ripping off the ideas.
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post Oct 10 2008, 12:41 PM
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Sampled one 3 months ago.
Didnt tickle my fancy. Too light, almost breakable. Fuck all adjustment. And for now limited everything.

All I can say is "If it aint broke, dont fix it"
Coil machines are the way to go IMO


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post Jan 14 2009, 12:28 PM
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I know some guys that have used them and the whole 5 dollar a tip thing sucks. That is up to $20 dollars a tattoo. I like Brandon Bond as much as the next guy but if he endorsed a turd in a punch bowl, how many artists would be drinking brown kool-aid?
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post Jan 15 2009, 06:55 AM
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I tried one for such a short time i fell in love with it .
Came back here to tell everyone about it , and forgot to post the bad points that have kept me from buying one.

$5 tips is one . Its not really a problem if you are doing Half Sleeves all day , but I am not .

Another flaw:

The Center part turns to adjust the stroke of the machine.
I have heard a few horror stories about working with it , turning your hand around so much while you work you adjust the stroke

HAWK says to put a piece of tape on it to keep it from turning . Carzy huh? After all that german engineering , high-tech mumbo jumbo , PUT SOME TAPE ON IT . LOL

I heard from one person that he stuck a customer with .25 inches of needle ( Luckily it was a buddy of his)

I have not bought one since i started this thread and wont know after shopping around and getting some practical knowledge about it .

I already flew off the handle and went neuma , no need to get crazy ( the coil gods just forgave me )


But for now I am gonna stay away from the Hawk.


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post Oct 23 2009, 07:45 PM
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Dan Henk uses the Hawk most of the time and he has not complained about it. The results are better than a traditional machine. Seems like you can achieve a more realistic result from this machine. I'd like to try it but it costs a little over 1 grand to get started.
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post Oct 23 2009, 10:01 PM
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for the neumas. if u dont want the air power. they have the hybrid that can hook up to ur power supply.
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post Oct 24 2009, 08:01 AM
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Coil isnt dead though, just look at Nikko Hurtado, still rocking coils and producing amazing results. I think its good to try new things and everyone finds something they like. Sure put the word out there but one man's epiphany is not necessarily everyones taste. I would definitely like to try my hand at a rotary machine but for now getting the grip on coils is my priority. I have heard the Neuma's are awesome for shading but some did not like them for lining?
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post Oct 24 2009, 01:50 PM
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I think for people on this forum it's a case of learn to stand before buying your running shoes, if ya know what I mean. It's easy to get all carried away with new technologies, but a fancy tool, a great workman, does not make.
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