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post Apr 17 2007, 12:55 PM
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Mark asked me to post the facts about preventing the transmission of bloodborne pathogens. If you didn't read the other post, I am a certified medical assistant and all this training and courses was required by law for me to become CMA registered.

The Following information, meets OSHA standards.

Definition:Blood borne Pathogens means pathogenic microorganisms that are present in human blood and can cause disease in humans. These pathogens include, but are not limited to, hepatitis B virus (HBV) and human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). Blood borne Pathogens means pathogenic microorganisms that are present in human blood and can cause disease in humans. These pathogens include, but are not limited to, hepatitis B virus (HBV) and human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).

1. Health care workers are required by law to receive the Hepititas B vaccine. I strongly recommend that anyone who is going to be working in the tattoo field get one.

2. Get an actual sharps container with needle-proof lid, this should have a bio-hazard logo on it, and IT CAN NOT BE THROWN AWAY. You have to call your local health department to find out when to take it of have it picked up.

3. New right out of the box gloves are a must. They cannot be reused ! Touching any unsterilized or infected area or objects and then touching the customers open skin also is a big no no, Because you could of picked up something on your gloves which could be transfered to them. If your not sure if you need to change gloves think of it this way. " A Dr. sets up everything he needs for a procedure on a sterile tray, and he has to change his gloves if he touches anything outside of the patient and that try." So set up your area first, and if you touch anything outside that area change your gloves. Its safer for your customer.

4. Any item that isn't a needle "paper towels, gloves, ink caps, etc" need to be carefully bagged up while your gloves are still ON. OSHA requires that items like this be disposed in a red Bio-hazard bag and disposed of properly same as the sharps container.

5.The proper cleaning and disinfecting of nonliving contaminated surfaces is an important element to help control pathogens and bio-hazards. Some facilities choose to clean daily with an effective general-purpose cleaner and follow with a disinfectant on the high-risk surfaces like toilets, urinals, washbasins and handles. Others choose to use a one step cleaner/disinfectant on all surfaces.

•  Cleaning is the removal of unwanted soil or contaminants
•  Sanitizing is the removal of microbes from an object to meet a minimum sanitation requirement, reducing the microbial population by    killing 99.9 percent of the targeted pathogens
•  Disinfecting is the total elimination of most pathogenic organisms from inanimate objects, providing a higher level of germ killing than cleaning or sanitizing

6. WHAT TO USE AND WHEN:

  •  Alcohols: Use ethyl and isopropyl alcohol solutions as antimicrobial agents against bacteria and fungi, though they won't have an effect on bacterial spores. They evaporate quickly, leave no residues on surfaces and are effective as the active ingredients in hand sanitizers.

  •  Chlorine bleach: Hypochlorite compounds release free chlorine in solution and are effective against Hepatitis B Virus, HIV-1 and many other bacteria, viruses and fungi. Chlorine bleach solutions are effective disinfectants but lack detergency and require that soils be removed from surfaces before they’re effective. Use chlorine bleach solutions to decontaminate blood spills in accordance with OSHA Bloodborne Pathogens Standard.


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post May 29 2007, 07:34 PM
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I know the feeling!  I not fond of doctors myself.  Infact, most doctors don't know much about sterilizing equipment anymore, most of it is single-use disposable.  The last time I saw autoclaves in use in the medical industry was at the orthodontists office.  My future husband is an EMT in Texas, so, I was taught by him what aceptic technique was and how to achieve it in regards to tattooing.  And, that latex gloves are poraus, so, I've switched to nitrile gloves.


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post Jun 3 2007, 01:17 AM
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about saran wrapping the table.... is it just as acceptable to us a disposable styrafoam plate as my sterile zone? I pute everything I need on it, vasoline on a popsicle stick, ink, paper towels, dipping cup (water in it, not for spitting dip into) and I lay my machine on it.... is that safe being that I dispose of it after every use?
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post Jun 3 2007, 01:34 AM
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Saran wrap is good in case you spill. I have the saran wrap then a paper towel over that. You'll never forget the first time you spill "the water"  it won't be the clean water but after you have been changing colors for a while then you will bump it and watch it run over everything.


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post Jun 3 2007, 01:40 AM
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I almosted spilled the water, but I caught on quick and now I use a generous amount of vasoline on the bottome of the cup and inkcap, it holds it to the plate.... holds like fuckin glue....
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post Aug 18 2007, 01:19 PM
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There are bloodborne pathogen classes at the red cross all the time. You will be certified and have documentation stated you are certified. very good investment.


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post Aug 18 2007, 06:42 PM
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Here in Australia afew years back i completed a blood born pathogens course covering HIV,HEP C, and the rest of the HEP family it coverd everything blood spills the works.I also cpmpleted my level3 first aid course witch only last's for about 3 or 4 years here so i'm gonna go back and do the refresher course when need be.That also coverd alot of the blood born pathogens aswell.It's good to have not only for tattooing butif you come across an acciedent you know what to do and youcould saves somebody's life
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post Aug 20 2007, 01:36 PM
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Being a total dumbass who knows next to feck all about vaccines, if you have the Hep B jab does it wear off or is it like tetanus & you only need it boosted once in a blue moon?


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post Aug 20 2007, 02:06 PM
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you get three lots to begin with and then a booster (I'm due my third one in a couple of months) not sure when the boosters are but pretty sure you get them! unsure.gif
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post Sep 27 2007, 03:51 AM
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Thanks. Its much help me.


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post Sep 27 2007, 09:06 PM
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We have a cool lady doctor....she is great! She not only likes tattoos....she has two....she wants me to do a nice cover-up on the small one she has on her back! Now THAT is a cool doctor! :-)
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post Sep 27 2007, 09:09 PM
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......I got my first (in a series of three) Hep A and B shots a couple of days ago. In this state.....you have to have at least the Hep B shot to get licensed by the Board of Health. You also have to take a certified Blood-Borne Pathogen course (and get the paperwork on both). A bit of a hastle....but prolly' a good idea to have anyway! :-)
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post Jan 6 2008, 11:07 PM
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anyone know where I can get those wipes tina was speaking of?

The link she posted no longer is working.. sad.gif

Im in the process of getting my Hep shots as well.. my current job provides them for free so might as well take advantage of that one, while I can!!!

thanks for this advice..

I have a few questions however...

~ Ive read some where else that people dont trust pre made, pre steralized needles and disposable tubes.. is this something we should all worry about or just some people being overly cautious?

~ Is using a dental bib ok as a barrier protector on my work station? my work station is a glass top and I tape down dental bibs to the top if it.. should I be wrapping it in platic and then dental bibing on top of that?

~ is it nessicary to tear apart and totaly clean your machine after every tattoo? or is wiping it down with the about said sanitixing wipes in between tattoos sufficient.. and doing a over haul cleaning every so offten? (just curious..)

~ I would LOVE for someone to make a step by step walk through (with photos) of their setting up their work station prior to a tattoo.. such as preparing the works station.. opening disposable tubes, needles ect.. setting up the machine with tube/needle all that good stuff.. Id like to see how a person does it in the most steril fashion..

there have been a few times when tattoing myself and my gf that ive touched something and then went to go back to tattoing and was like O SHIT.. and took my gloves off.. threw and new set on and then back at it.. but ive read that when you open the needle pack you shouldnt touch the needle with the same glove you used to open it as the outside of the pack is NOT steril.. hence you could possibly infect the needle bar.. or the disposable tube.. (any suggestions on how you guys go about this in the safest fashion)

sorry for all the questions just things I have been thinking about and Ive been working hard on making my technique the very safest.. it is the thing I worry about most.. more so then my actual ability to tattoo.. Id rather have a shakey line then a infected friend!




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post Jan 19 2008, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE (B!F @ May 24 2007, 09:29 PM) *
i vote for punching him in the mouth and finding a new doctor!

i hate when doctors act all stingy and bitchy over tattoo's and piercing


two months ago i had to go to the walk in, and they refused to take my blood because i have tattoos down both arms!! what fucking idiots..
they said they couldnt figure it out, so what im just never suppose to have blood checked.. morons


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post Jan 19 2008, 09:56 PM
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oh yeah, and im a dental hygienist.. we ALWAYS use universal (or standard) precautions on everyone, mainly because like 1 out of 4 people with HIV dont even know they have it. its actually pretty difficult to contract HIV through needle sticks or cross contamination, simply because its a very fragile virus, but Hep B and C can live on a droplet of dried blood for 3 months...

i know what i do involves more saliva and fluids spraying everywhere, but it wouldnt be such a bad idea to wear a mask or even glasses if you are really concerned. while cleaning teeth i wear Loupes which are protective eyewear with magnification and they are awesome... i wonder if they would be good while tattooing? they take some time getting use to, but could really bring out the details, and protect you at the same time.


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post May 7 2008, 09:40 PM
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our state laws now require artists to have hep b imunization on file, i get my second round this month, im a little ocd so what i do is pull out the redcross standard cheap gloves during setup and when im ready to start i reglove with the cool black and comfy panthers, and i also bag with TWO baggies on the machines as at times tuning while working is needed also cant forget the clipcord covers!


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post May 8 2008, 06:39 AM
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QUOTE (crueeldude13 @ May 7 2008, 10:40 PM) *
our state laws now require artists to have hep b imunization on file, i get my second round this month, im a little ocd so what i do is pull out the redcross standard cheap gloves during setup and when im ready to start i reglove with the cool black and comfy panthers, and i also bag with TWO baggies on the machines as at times tuning while working is needed also cant forget the clipcord covers!



I don't know if anyone has covered this already.. but how do you correctly cover your machine? Do you use a rubber band?
I ordered sleeves, but they seem a little awkward to try to put on and work with.

I'd like to know for sure how to use them properly.

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i put my bands on first, then snip a corner out of the baggiie and feed the grip and tube through the open corner, this puts the opening of the baggie to the rear of the machine, makes for easy access on the clipcord, i put my bands on first to keep from bunching the baggie up around my contact screw area


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QUOTE (MadScratcher @ May 25 2007, 09:57 AM) *
i vote for punching him in the mouth and finding a new doctor!

i hate when doctors act all stingy and bitchy over tattoo's and piercing



The artist that did my back had a mild heart attck and when he went to the doctor, the guy told him he had a heart attack because all of his tattoos were resticting the skins ability to breathe.  What a dumbass and people wonder why I hate going to the doctor.


And I find it hard to believe a medical doctor still believes that. The skin is basically protection, waterproof, etc. Oxygen is never absorbed through the skin, but gains access to the body through the circulatory system. This mistaken idea of "skin breathing" is pretty much the product of ad campaigns for fabrics, make-up etc. to make them sound better for you.
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post Feb 19 2009, 08:25 PM
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on the topic of BBP's and CC ... where should one keep thier sharps container? i know not to keep it near people or equipment but where then? just on the floor in the corner? i was thinking mounting it in a lexan enclosure on the back wall away from everything else, what do you think? also when should you dispose of a sharps container? when it is full? i just got a gallon size one for free when i bought my table, it will take me forever to fill.
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Im surprized nobody has mentioned a airborn virus or did i miss something? After working for 9 years in the biggest hospital in the southern hemisphere (Sydneys Westmead Hospital) "MRSA" is a real threat.Golden staph etc is a flesh eating virus that is very hard to control.The intentsive care unit I worked in was plagued with it.(Super bugs).At times I use to wear a mask and a spacesuit! Ppl with this virus are isolated in a single room. The sad fact is they came in for a hip replacement etc and left with a massive hole in the flesh or minus a limb.The only answer the surgeons have is to debride or literally cut away the dead flesh.The bug actually fed on disinfectant.The hospitals answer to it was to completely strip out the whole unit every 2 years and fully rebuild it.A very expensive exercise and scary stuff.CSSD (Clinical Services Sterilizing Department) was not to blame as they have the best equipment in the country.But the buck had to stop somewhere and they always wore it.Typical blame passing government bullshit. dry.gif

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