Guidelines for Giving Feedback
Guidelines for Giving FeedbackPlease consider the following when giving feedback on a member's tattoo:
Line work: Does the artist seem to have grasped the technique of applying smooth, consistent lines? Do the lines flow with no shakes, skips or blow-outs?
Fill: Are all color and black areas a consistent color?
Shading: Does the tattoo show smooth gradients and transition effectively from light to dark?
Color Harmony: Does the tattoo have colors that compliment each other?
Placement/Size: Does the tattoo seem to be the right size for the area chosen? Is it centered and lined up with any other work? Does it go with the flow of the body?
Design: How well does the overall design work? Does it have sound composition? Does it feel well thought out?
Feedback: What areas could be improved?
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Big Flowers Tattoo. I May Have Figured Out My Lining..., A work in progress... |
 Nov 7 2009, 10:03 AM
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Very nice JD, that looks well.
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Nov 7 2009, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE (Old Skool @ Nov 7 2009, 11:03 AM)  Very nice JD, that looks well. Thanks man.  QUOTE (J.D. @ Nov 7 2009, 10:04 AM) Thumb, and sound. Putting my thumb on the nipple over time, over and over and over, every time I changed something up. It took trail and error over time to where I know what hit is too much, too little, or just enough. It's one of those many things in tattooing that you have to just learn to feel on your own. Pig skin man. Hours and hours and hours on pig skin is what taught me.  Oh, and I don't really pay attention to the stalling. It's more of the hit I feel on my thumb. My machine sounds like it's stalling when I'm in the middle of my whip, but I know from the hit I felt on my thumb, and the feedback I get through the machine while it's in the skin that it's hitting just hard enough to be fully penetrating. In the latest update on my 1/2 sleeve, I upped the volts quite a bit more with the green and yellow steam. That particular ink from Intenze goes in awesome, but still no where near as easy as Kuro black. So the volts were upped a bit to pound the ink in. But not too much. Just enough to get the ink to stick a bit easier. But still soft enough to also be able to build up some subtleties in the gradients from green to yellow. Hope that helps. -------------------- |
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Nov 8 2009, 12:48 AM
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I don't blow smoke up peoples butts so here goes.....
Love it Man! looks spot on to me can't wait to see it finished.
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Nov 8 2009, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE (J.D. @ Nov 7 2009, 08:28 PM) Thanks man. Oh, and I don't really pay attention to the stalling. It's more of the hit I feel on my thumb. My machine sounds like it's stalling when I'm in the middle of my whip, but I know from the hit I felt on my thumb, and the feedback I get through the machine while it's in the skin that it's hitting just hard enough to be fully penetrating. In the latest update on my 1/2 sleeve, I upped the volts quite a bit more with the green and yellow steam. That particular ink from Intenze goes in awesome, but still no where near as easy as Kuro black. So the volts were upped a bit to pound the ink in. But not too much. Just enough to get the ink to stick a bit easier. But still soft enough to also be able to build up some subtleties in the gradients from green to yellow. Hope that helps. good ol thumb eh ! thats pretty much how i guage the hit..... and sound of course did you blend/mix in the tube ? or have caps set out with the diff shades,gradients ? |
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Nov 8 2009, 03:30 AM
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QUOTE (Teo @ Nov 8 2009, 03:52 AM) good ol thumb eh ! thats pretty much how i guage the hit..... and sound of course did you blend/mix in the tube ? or have caps set out with the diff shades,gradients ? If we're talking about the 1/2 sleeve, it's been all in the tube since the areas have been small enough. When I hit the background with purples and blues, I'm gonna premix to make sure it's all consistent. -------------------- |
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Nov 8 2009, 05:38 AM
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QUOTE (J.D. @ Nov 8 2009, 12:30 PM) If we're talking about the 1/2 sleeve, it's been all in the tube since the areas have been small enough. When I hit the background with purples and blues, I'm gonna premix to make sure it's all consistent. gotcha ! thanks for the insights....il stop bugging you now !
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Nov 25 2009, 02:56 AM
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I'm not certified to legally tattoo in the shop yet, so this one was done in my home. I refuse to travel anymore, as it's a fucking pain in my ass, so most people wanting tattoos are waiting for my blood and paper work to go through so I can get them in the shop. But this girl's a family friend, so I set up in the house again for her.
 7magShe asked to leave the purple out of the blue bonnets at the last minute. I'm gonna see how it all heals, and decide how to tie it together without the purple. It doesn't look right as is. Needs something in there to replace the purple. I had a hard time with the light blue. It wouldn't go in at some points, and super saturate in others. I finally jacked up the volts and just hammered it in. I moved fast along her hip bone, and stomach area since my machine was hitting pretty hard, and could tell she was NOT happy. So the top of the bonnets on the hip bone are gonna get another pass. Hell, I'm not happy with the light blue at all, so I'm going over all of it again to get it right next time. This is my biggest hurdle right now. Getting it all in the first time. I'm tired of doing it all twice to get it in right. I'll get it. It's coming. So I kept the volts up pretty high. Color went in faster, but the tattoo bled much more. No overworking, but you can see the excess blood dried up in the bonnets and the poppies. We'll probably hit this sooner than later, so another pic will be up soon. -------------------- |
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Nov 25 2009, 03:22 AM
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Awesome stuff J.D. can i ask a question about your progress?... how much time do you think you have jumped forward since Mario took you under his wing? from the first time he helped you .. how long do you think it would have taken you to get where you are now on your own..? and what is the single most important thing you have learnt from him so far? im just curious .
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CLICK ME " Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy,and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty"- Plato |
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Nov 25 2009, 03:23 AM
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You're quite sure you won't be in the Norway area any time soon...?
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Nov 25 2009, 03:50 AM
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QUOTE (Noz187 @ Nov 25 2009, 04:22 AM) Awesome stuff J.D. can i ask a question about your progress?... how much time do you think you have jumped forward since Mario took you under his wing? from the first time he helped you .. how long do you think it would have taken you to get where you are now on your own..? and what is the single most important thing you have learnt from him so far? im just curious . Although I've started on a few things with Mario since we talked about the apprenticeship, it's really only been super hands on with art. We haven't really gone over my tattooing yet, as I'm not legally allowed to tattoo there until the paper work goes through. But I've been at his shop every Saturday for the past few months, and he's answered whatever questions I've had. Especially about tattooing. Being allowed to hang out at his shop while he and Noel tattoo has helped me quite a bit. There's really not any one thing I can say that has stood out with my learning process yet. It's been little bits and pieces from picking their brains about stuff. There were moments in this tattoo where I wanted to walk out of the room and punch something when I couldn't get the baby blue to stick consistently. I was taking WAY too much time, and it was a very sensitive area for her. I watched Mario put color in super quick with a HARD hitting color packer a few days ago, and that's what clued me into upping my volts considerably. But seeing how quickly he moved to assure no overworking, and the subtleties of his finessing out gradients stuck with me too. Things like that have chimed in with me during most of my tattoos. If it wasn't for him allowing me to hang and observe, I'd probably still be struggling a lot more than I am now. I can't wait to have him over my shoulder as a committed mentor while I'm tattooing. I'm hoping to soak in his advice on anything he can suggest for me to improve. QUOTE (amybird @ Nov 25 2009, 04:23 AM) You're quite sure you won't be in the Norway area any time soon...? How about you and your husband take a trip to the beautiful and historic San Francisco.
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Nov 25 2009, 02:15 PM
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if all clients were patient enough to have 2+3 sessions .. they all want it all in one day and that causes stress and rushed work. Good to see you taking steps on this one. Will work in your favour.
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Nov 25 2009, 02:21 PM
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I can only put the ink in so fast, and that's starting to bug me. Plus, I only have a limited window of time to begin with. We started after 10 pm, after I put my kids to bed and set up. And she had to get up early for work the next day, so we stopped at 1:30am. 3/12 hours, with two 5 minute breaks. Not very fast. I gotta speed up.
Good to see you back Devils.
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Nov 25 2009, 02:41 PM
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thanks J.D...
been mad busy. good work. -------------------- ..Damn it...
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Nov 26 2009, 09:43 AM
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this seems as if it is really comming together JD i have the same issue with a few colors aswell getting it solid the first run i dont wanna overwork the skin yet it needs to be solid ..
looks like you have a great star and a solid foundation to build this piece up .. take your time and do what you need to do -------------------- www.inkedbythenerd.com swallowsndaggers tattoo forum Swallows and Daggers Support The Traditional Movement Tattoo Artist, Painter, Asshole and Machine Collector |
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Nov 26 2009, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (The Nerd @ Nov 26 2009, 10:43 AM) this seems as if it is really comming together JD i have the same issue with a few colors aswell getting it solid the first run i dont wanna overwork the skin yet it needs to be solid .. looks like you have a great star and a solid foundation to build this piece up .. take your time and do what you need to do dude you should read/see josh carltons color packer set up... well it worked for me anyway. -------------------- Nosferatu1812@yahoo.com
CLICK ME " Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy,and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty"- Plato |
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Nov 27 2009, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE (Noz187 @ Nov 26 2009, 10:14 AM) dude you should read/see josh carltons color packer set up... well it worked for me anyway. I own the book, but read it a loooong time ago. A lot of it was over my head at the time. I bet if I revisit it, it will help a lot. Thanks for reminding me I still have that thing.  9magShe wanted orangey gold poppies instead of the yellow in the reference art. I think my set up is off. I gotta rethink some things. It looks saturated in the pic, but it's really not. I just couldn't get the color in, and therefore struggled with the blending. I couldn't judge the gradients between the red, orange and yellow brecause it was all filled with blood. Even still, I know I put in gradients from yellow to orange in all new flowers tonight, but still cant see it in the pic. I need to add more red at the base shadows in the new orange poppies. I need to add more brownish tones in the roses. No contrast in this new work tonight. It looks okay, but desperately needs more attention. A little discouraged tonight, but I know I'll get there. -------------------- |
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Dec 6 2009, 08:12 PM
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My first tattoo session in a real shop!
 See what I mean about the lack of color saturation in the roses? It's the same with the poppies. The shader I was using on this tattoo before this session is tuned for black and gray and didn't really realize it until I started doing bigger color pieces. Just not enough punch for me to put the color in consistently and I was struggling. I could have retuned it to hit harder, but that would just be a waste of a perfectly good B&G shader setup. I have a Buzzbrush cutback shader that I put down for a while because it was just too much for me to handle. But I retuned it today before this tattoo, and it put in the inks like fucking butter. Hopefully when the new flowers heal, the color will stick. It looks like and felt like it's gonna stay. I hope I'm right. So, I gotta go back in to the roses and poppies but know it's all gonna turn out how I want it to. It's frustrating to know she's gonna have to endure me going back in. As far as the pink naked ladies, I got a lot done, but it still needs finessing. Man, this is a big tattoo. 
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Dec 8 2009, 02:35 PM
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just seeing the outline made me have to change my pants.............in a good way.
-------------------- " he who masturbates with peanut butter is fucking nuts "
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Dec 9 2009, 06:06 AM
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awsome piece J.D. ive been watching it since u posted it back in 2008.... im glad its slowly coming together.... i gotta get some of my work up on here..... cant wait to see the completion......
-------------------- We the willing, lead by the unknowing, have done so much with so little, for so long. That we can do anything with nothing...
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Dec 9 2009, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE (1rottie1 @ Dec 9 2009, 07:06 AM) awsome piece J.D. ive been watching it since u posted it back in 2008.... im glad its slowly coming together.... i gotta get some of my work up on here..... cant wait to see the completion...... Thanks man, but I posted the completed art for this less than two months ago.  Started tattooing it soon after. -------------------- |
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