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Line work: Does the artist seem to have grasped the technique of applying smooth, consistent lines? Do the lines flow with no shakes, skips or blow-outs?

Fill: Are all color and black areas a consistent color?

Shading: Does the tattoo show smooth gradients and transition effectively from light to dark?

Color Harmony:
Does the tattoo have colors that compliment each other?

Placement/Size:
Does the tattoo seem to be the right size for the area chosen? Is it centered and lined up with any other work? Does it go with the flow of the body?

Design: How well does the overall design work? Does it have sound composition? Does it feel well thought out?

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Big Flowers Tattoo. I May Have Figured Out My Lining..., A work in progress...
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post Nov 5 2009, 02:53 AM
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How many tattoos have you done on humans other than yourself now?
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post Nov 5 2009, 03:00 AM
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QUOTE (amybird @ Nov 5 2009, 03:53 AM) *
How many tattoos have you done on humans other than yourself now?


Six, I think.


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post Nov 5 2009, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE (J.D. @ Nov 5 2009, 03:00 AM) *
Six, I think.


Nope, sorry, 8...


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post Nov 5 2009, 03:07 AM
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Fucksake. (A compliment, lol)
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post Nov 5 2009, 03:16 AM
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QUOTE (amybird @ Nov 5 2009, 03:07 AM) *
Fucksake. (A compliment, lol)



Thank you for that. I like it. It's not perfect, but I 'm very proud of the linework. I learned a bit more about getting a smoother gradient with more finess of my wrist when flicking the mag out. You can see some choppy gradients in there, but considering it's just pure black, I'm happy. Especially since the color will blend it all together. Hopefully this marks the end of my lining struggle. But know that I tattooed pounds and pounds of pigskin, and littered my thighs with practice. If you factor in the pig and my thighs, I can say I've done easily over 100 tattoos. It's been a long, exhausting effort.


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post Nov 5 2009, 03:25 AM
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QUOTE (J.D. @ Nov 5 2009, 12:16 PM) *
Thank you for that. I like it. It's not perfect, but I 'm very proud of the linework. I learned a more about getting a smoother gradient with more finess of my wrist when flicking the mag out. You can see some choppy gradients in there, but considering it's just pure black, I'm happy. Especially since the color will blend it all together. Hopefully this marks the end of my lining struggle. But know that I tattooed pounds and pounds of pigskin, and littered my thighs with practice. If you factor in the pig and my thighs, I can say I've done easily over 100 tattoos. It's been a long, exhausting effort.


Well it's been worth it. A lot more people should probably make their first 100+ tattoos off-human!
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post Nov 5 2009, 04:41 AM
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when u do ure shades with un-dilluted black, do u do whip shadeing ? to make it fade
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post Nov 5 2009, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE (Marcuz @ Nov 5 2009, 04:41 AM) *
when u do ure shades with un-dilluted black, do u do whip shadeing ? to make it fade


Yes. Whip shading. Flicking outward towards the fade. A basic guideline to smooth out the gradients is to try to work in a crosshatching pattern. Hand speed and feathering out your wrist flick are key factors too.

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A lot more people should probably make their first 100+ tattoos off-human!


Absolutely. There are a lot of mistakes that can, and will be made on pig when learning how to control your machines. A LOT of mistakes. smile.gif


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post Nov 5 2009, 12:42 PM
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Looks great JD you should be very proud bro. I cant wait to see this finished out.
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post Nov 5 2009, 05:38 PM
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Damn good job.
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post Nov 6 2009, 01:29 AM
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Thanks guys.

Finished the black tonight. We'll wait two or three weeks and start on color.

Same deal. Kuro Black, 9mag. 2 hours.

Thanks for looking. smile.gif


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post Nov 6 2009, 02:00 AM
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Do you fancy a trip to Norway to finish my arm? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 6 2009, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE (amybird @ Nov 6 2009, 02:00 AM) *
Do you fancy a trip to Norway to finish my arm? biggrin.gif


Don't tempt me. laugh.gif

Besides, it's not done yet. You're gonna jinx me. tongue.gif


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post Nov 6 2009, 03:06 AM
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QUOTE (J.D. @ Nov 6 2009, 11:04 AM) *
Don't tempt me. laugh.gif

Besides, it's not done yet. You're gonna jinx me. tongue.gif


Eek sorry. Yeh, it totally sucks. Go back to piggies you crazy fool! tongue.gif
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post Nov 6 2009, 04:47 AM
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wow JD ! very nice bro ! .......this is gona look ace finished !


side note: do you lower your voltage for the whip shading ? or is it purely increasing hand speed while whipping out ?
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post Nov 6 2009, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE (Teo @ Nov 6 2009, 04:47 AM) *
wow JD ! very nice bro ! .......this is gona look ace finished !


side note: do you lower your voltage for the whip shading ? or is it purely increasing hand speed while whipping out ?


With Kuro, what works for me, is I lower the voltage as much as possible. Just hard enough to get that needle grouping fully penetrating. This is with Kuro Sumi black though. With most other colors, I need to turn the volts up. But for me, and what I've adapted to, yes, a soft hitting shader is what I prefer. It's not very fast either. It's in the low 80 Hz range.


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post Nov 6 2009, 09:18 AM
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looking awesome j.d How many hours including concept and design have you put into this.....every one of em was worthwhile
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QUOTE (paulengland @ Nov 6 2009, 09:18 AM) *
looking awesome j.d How many hours including concept and design have you put into this.....every one of em was worthwhile


Man, I don't know. From the first pencil to paper sketch, up to now?

I'll say about 5 hours conceptualizing and coming up with the final layout and lines. Maybe more.
8 hours for the full color rendering.
4 hours lining. Maybe a little less.
3 hours first black session.
2 hours last night to finish black.

So 17 hours so far. Maybe 20.


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post Nov 7 2009, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE (J.D. @ Nov 6 2009, 06:14 PM) *
With Kuro, what works for me, is I lower the voltage as much as possible. Just hard enough to get that needle grouping fully penetrating. This is with Kuro Sumi black though. With most other colors, I need to turn the volts up. But for me, and what I've adapted to, yes, a soft hitting shader is what I prefer. It's not very fast either. It's in the low 80 Hz range.


how do you personally gauge the lowest volts for whats needed to just penetrate the skin ?

thumb test , slowly increasing until it doesnt stall while aplying your thumb ?

sound ?

or have to bump it with the flick of the wrist to keep the volts low enough

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QUOTE (Teo @ Nov 7 2009, 09:57 AM) *
how do you personally gauge the lowest volts for whats needed to just penetrate the skin ?

thumb test , slowly increasing until it doesnt stall while aplying your thumb ?

sound ?


Thumb, and sound. Putting my thumb on the nipple over time, over and over and over, every time I changed something up. It took trail and error over time to where I know what hit is too much, too little, or just enough. It's one of those many things in tattooing that you have to just learn to feel on your own. Pig skin man. Hours and hours and hours on pig skin is what taught me. wink.gif


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